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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"[i"Loose forward Sean O'Loughlin – who has been Wigan's captain for the past four years – will be among the group, and has backed the radical change."[/i
so does this mean that Lockers has known all along how gash he has been as captain, makes sense to me'"
Think you need to watch the interview. Maguire says O'Loughlin could have kept the captaincy.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"How does that say that O'Loughlin admits he's been a bad captain?'"
Dont bite to it Jeff... Any excuse to knock Lockers for BBB.
Having watched the interview, Maguire could sell sand to the Arabs im sure..
See how it goes. Still seems weird
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I'd agree with that, although Richards may be in there above one of the others.'"
It would be very interesting to find out who the new 'gang of five' are wouldn't it. It could realistically be out of a number of players;
Lockers
Fielden
Richards
Tommy
Carmont
Gleeson
Bailey
All could easily get into that five.
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| Smacks of someone trying to be too clever for their own good. The captain should be one man only as the figurehead and then everyone else should have the opportunity to air their views anyway. The majority of us have all been part of some team or other and if you're afraid to voice your opinion then you shouldn't be in a team environment.
I've been all for the changes made and it's been great to read and hear positve news coming from the club but this just a rubbish idea. Is it supposed to 'make' leaders out of nothing when the one thing we have lacked for a while is leadership, in which this is essentially the same group of players?
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| well i certainly think its a big change. Lockers wont get as much stick as he has done in the past, which is a good thing. Will be interesting who the team and coaching staff pick as the other 4 .
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| Some people don't like change do they!!
You think he'd changed the teams name or something.
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| Quote ="Captain13"Dont bite to it Jeff... Any excuse to knock Lockers for BBB.
Having watched the interview, Maguire could sell sand to the Arabs im sure..
See how it goes. Still seems weird'"
I don't think it's weird, just different. Afterall, someone needs to do something first for it to catch on. I think this will be a very good idea.
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| There should be 13 captains on the field anyway..it shouldnt be left to just one player to fire the team up and give boll0ckings.
If it makes more players speak up instead of waiting for one person to talk then i think its a good idea
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| stupid idea imo.
1 captain, 1 v/c, and a pack leader.
you cant go chopping and changing skips every week.
each with different ideas prob?
just cause confusion and disruption imo.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"stupid idea imo.
1 captain, 1 v/c, and a pack leader.
you cant go chopping and changing skips every week.
each with different ideas prob?
just cause confusion and disruption imo.'"
Maybe we can whistle down the pit if we're short of a prop as well? Move with the times, gramps.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"stupid idea imo.
1 captain, 1 v/c, and a pack leader.
you cant go chopping and changing skips every week.
each with different ideas prob?
just cause confusion and disruption imo.'"
Why Can't he?
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| Don't expect a coherent answer any time soon, Jeff. I suspect Wigan Pie Man thinks the team captain evolves strategies, makes decisions re. game plans, etc.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Don't expect a coherent answer any time soon, Jeff. I suspect Wigan Pie Man thinks the team captain evolves strategies, makes decisions re. game plans, etc.'"
Ah. I think whoever gets the nod on any given week, aslong as they shout at people under the sticks they will be called the greatest captain ever - this seems to be the consenus on here with some people!
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| People react differently when given responsibility. Maybe this idea could uncover someone with, as yet, undiscovered leadership qualities. It's too easy to sit back and let someone else take the responsibilty but if you are told "your in charge" then you have to stand up and be counted.
This will keep at least five players on their toes for a season. Good idea and is worth a try at least.
Plus no-one will want to get beaten whilst they are captain
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| Quote ="Pugsley Snr"People react differently when given responsibility. Maybe this idea could uncover someone with, as yet, undiscovered leadership qualities. It's too easy to sit back and let someone else take the responsibilty but if you are told "your in charge" then you have to stand up and be counted.
This will keep at least five players on their toes for a season. Good idea and is worth a try at least.
Plus no-one will want to get beaten whilst they are captain
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This is not something I had thought of but adds another interesting twist on it. Of course there will be banter around the team if when you are captain and the team loses. This is an excellent point of view to take and may put an extra 15-20% of effort from whoever is the captain.
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| The only downside I can see is that if the 5 "chosen ones" distance themselves from the team and two groups form within the one team. Can't really see this happening though.
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| Quote ="Pugsley Snr"The only downside I can see is that if the 5 "chosen ones" distance themselves from the team and two groups form within the one team. Can't really see this happening though.'"
I don't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but, the players who get selected will be selected for their leadership qualities and thus wouldn't allow that to happen.
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| imo a good move by MM, takes the steam off one bloke. and liek has been said gives that banter between them with regards to win losses and points scored.
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| It has been said for some years that ours is a quiet dressing room with quiet players. Perhaps this is one way of getting the senior players to speak up and provide that leadership and support for the team and its captain.
Will we now have a club captain? Lockers?
My five would be - Lockers, Fielden, Deacon, Gleeson & Bailey.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"stupid idea imo.
1 captain, 1 v/c, and a pack leader.
you cant go chopping and changing skips every week.
each with different ideas prob?
just cause confusion and disruption imo.'"
Well thats 3 leaders for a starters and he's only naming a group of 5 so he's not far off want you want to see.
A captains role is over-rated imo. Unless you have an absolute beast of a leader like Farrell you need to have more then one man in your side who's willing to roll his sleeves up and show the way.
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| Could be a lot, lot worse for us;
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/rugby_league/super_league/hull/8452678.stm[/url
Poor Hull
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Could be a lot, lot worse for us;
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/rugby_league/super_league/hull/8452678.stm[/url
Poor Hull'"
looks like he has settled in there. good luck to the pr1ck
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It has been said for some years that ours is a quiet dressing room with quiet players. Perhaps this is one way of getting the senior players to speak up and provide that leadership and support for the team and its captain.
Will we now have a club captain? Lockers?
My five would be - Lockers, Fielden, Deacon, Gleeson & Bailey.'"
I agree with the choice above and the point you make regarding a quiet dressing room.
It is something innovative and new that I am looking forward to seeing how it works. TBH on the field (if anyone pays attention) many players chip in when they're behind the posts. Most noticeably Riddell and Bailey. Fielden always seems to be one of the players constantly talking as well. We all know Gleeson has captained England before (not sure about Wire). Deacon obviously being the Bradford captain for a number of years. Although having said this is something new I think it is common in every Super League team to have numerous senior players chunnering away behind the sticks and in the dressing room. At Leeds you have to imagine Jamie Peacock and Keith Senior have their say, but are never named as captains. I think all we have done is make it official that those type of players have that role.
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| I don't like it, obviously senior players will provide valuable experience and take weight off a captains shoulders but IMO you still need an official leader. It's a gimic that won't last.
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| Who will lift the cup at Wembley/Old Trafford?
Me, me, it's my turn, gerroff.
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