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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Read my post.
This is his last chance.
The surgeons screwed up and he missed two years (1 with Gloucester and one with Wigan)
He also missed quite a bit of last years pre-season.
He's still only 23.
We didn't buy a bad player, get hold of a dvd of his performance in the WCC, but we took a risk.
Why did Gloucester buy him?
Did you go to the reserves Grand Final? Initially he was against Gary Wheeler who Saints fans want in the first team. Pryce ran over him, through him and round him.
Just so you understand, as you seem to have a problem deciphering what I posted.
IMO a fit, confident Karl Pryce would be great asset to Wigan and
England /GB. He has a YEAR to prove his worth.'"
spot on!!!
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| Whos the guy playing the ball to them on the video ?
I dont think its Maguire
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| I would be gutted if we got rid of Pryce but not because he has done great things in a Wigan shirt but the potential he posses is great. Maguire was the backs coach at Melbourne bringing Slater, Folou, Chambers and Inglis through so he is the man to make Pryce come good, keep the faith!
A full pre season under Wane, Maguire and Bitcon will show us what he is capable of, even if he shows glimpses in 2010 I would give him an extension because if Pryce went to another club I reckon it would come back to bite us on the harris unlike Mathers who I still reckon is bobbins.
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| One of the main problems with Pryce IMO is that the one thing that might help him is to have a good run of 1st team games.
How he's going to get that?
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| Quote ="MadDogg"One of the main problems with Pryce IMO is that the one thing that might help him is to have a good run of 1st team games.
How he's going to get that?'"
By ripping into pre season, Maguire will have given them a fresh slate.
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| Pryce's last game at the JJB for Bradford before he went to Union he was outstanding. He made two tries and scored two. He threatened our line almost every time he got the ball.
He's here for the season whether some like it or not and he's a Wigan player. So lets hope it comes good for the lad and for Wigan.
Also lets give him support when he pulls on the cherry and White shirt.
As has been said, if he fulfils his potential he could be a world beater, let's hope it turns out that way.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've watched him from being 16 and he's murdered us (Wigan) at junior levels.
He went into the Bradford first team and did well.
What went wrong?
It's either fitness and confidence or "bottle".
One thing for sure as you said he (and we) will find out this coming season.
What would really have peed me off though was for Wigan to have released him at the end of 2009 and another club to have got him fit and confident and then see him come back and destroy us again.'"
I think the reason for his perceived "lack of bottle" stems purely from his injury. Being out for the length of time he has, with an injury to a part of the body that is pretty integral to living a normal life never mind playing rugby.
I think it is just a question of getting games under his belt and not having an aching foot playing at the back of his mind.
The lad will come good and I really think he will become a very good SL centre / wing.
However I don’t think this will happen whilst he is at Wigan. Certain sections of our crowd love nothing better than to bitch and moan about individuals in the team regardless of the possible reasons behind their performances.
I really hope he gets a good string of games under his belt and gains a bit of confidence from his performances. Like I said though it won’t happen here because as soon as he knocks a ball on he will get pure abuse form some fans.
I want a fit Karl Pryce playing for Wigan. I just can’t see it happening though. Shame really.
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| I cannot believe what i am reading regards Pryce, every player should have a clean slate. It is obvious he needs to perform this season but it is the first time in 3 years he has had the correct preparation going into a season. To claim he has never caused Wigan any damage in his Bradford days is bizarre he smashed us on several occasions at the JJB and Odsal.
I personally think in the right hands Pryce has the potential to be world class, he has all the skills and physical attributes and now he has the preparation. I have never rated BN as a coach and i feel some of our more criticised player will really improve this year.
Personally I am happy to give everyone a chance and it seems the coaches are too.
I do not think any player can be written off.
Pryce has to be given a run in the centre when either Gleeson or Carmont pick up a knock, and he must be given a chance to prove the doubters wrong.
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| From reading posts on here and talking to other Wigan fans, everyone (nearly) wants Karl to suceed in a Wigan shirt.
Just hopefully he can have a great start to this season.
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"From reading posts on here and talking to other Wigan fans, everyone (nearly) wants Karl to suceed in a Wigan shirt.
Just hopefully he can have a great start to this season.'"
Without doubt I want him to succeed and so should everybody else. Any team would want a guy of that size and ability in their side 'IF' he sorts himself out.
I'd love to see him come really good this year and find some confidence and abit of an edge but he just seems so laid back.
It's a long shot but i'd be made up if we're all singing his praises in a few months time begging the club to sign him up to a new deal.
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| Pryce looked knackered on that video
At least he's still there so he must be prepared to work.
Hopefully Maguire gives him a bit more confidence so we've got a top class centre on our hands.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Without doubt I want him to succeed and so should everybody else. Any team would want a guy of that size and ability in their side 'IF' he sorts himself out.
I'd love to see him come really good this year and find some confidence and abit of an edge but he just seems so laid back.
It's a long shot but i'd be made up if we're all singing his praises in a few months time begging the club to sign him up to a new deal.'"
So was Kevin Iro, but we managed to get some great performances from him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So was Kevin Iro, but we managed to get some great performances from him.'"
Yeah laid back but he had a nasty edge to him. He had an aura about him which Pryce doesn't currently have.
I'd love to see Pryce play that well he takes the 'Beast' nickname on
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| I was surprised to hear Cameron Phelps comments regarding the wrestling component and how they have not done much of it in the past as its generally accepted how essential this component is to the game of rugby league .
I know saints have used a wrestling coach as have a lot of other clubs and i remember Mike Greg commenting on this in the past when talking about wining the collision.
Did we not have a combat zone specifically built at the training facility's at Orrell as part of the improvements under B. N. for this type of drill ?
PS. Lets give all the players a chance to prove them selves under our new regime as it sounds like they are really getting to grips with the needs and weaknesses in our current squad .
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| To suggest Karl Pryce's poor performances last year were due to poor coaching is quite frankly bizarre considering he had the exact same coach when he produced his good performances at Bradford.
Karl Pryce and only Karl Pryce is responsible for his poor heartless performances last season. He and a few other players need to stand up and be counted next year and stop looking to hide behind the coach.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"He seems to be our most hated player amongst supporters, hopefully he'll come out and show them up this season, he certainly has the talent.'"
He isn't the most hated amongst fans. He is the one who frustrates us most because we can all see the unrealised potential. If he clicks into gear he could easily soon become the fans favourite because he has the potential to detroy defences. We live in hope, but lets give him a chance under the new regime.
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"He isn't the most hated amongst fans. He is the one who frustrates us most because we can all see the unrealised potential. If he clicks into gear he could easily soon become the fans favourite because he has the potential to detroy defences. We live in hope, but lets give him a chance under the new regime.'"
I think hate is the wrong word and anyone that uses this phrase is likely to have little understanding of his injury or the game itself and i would encourage them to say that to his face as opposed to a message board.
Like you say, for Pryce and the rest of the squad this season is an opportunity to impress and prove themselves.
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| the players are doing 2 circuits of haigh hall with a 5 minute break in between. Of all the players taking part this includes academy and first team players ( not sure if absolutaly everyone is included)Mr karl pryce was the slowest. He certainly needs to pick up his game and get fitter
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| Quote ="jameswk"the players are doing 2 circuits of haigh hall with a 5 minute break in between. Of all the players taking part this includes academy and first team players ( not sure if absolutaly everyone is included)Mr karl pryce was the slowest. He certainly needs to pick up his game and get fitter'"
So for all we know it could of been Amos Roberts and Karl Pryce!
I just don't believe you.
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| Quote ="dany1979"So for all we know it could of been Amos Roberts and Karl Pryce!
I just don't believe you.'"
I dont give a flying to55 if you belive me or not . Its fact .The whole squd were there including all coaching staff and the guy they brought in from NZ to help with pre season , young ryan king from the academy side was the fastest , karl pryce was last
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| Quote ="jameswk"I dont give a flying to55 if you belive me or not . Its fact .The whole squd were there including all coaching staff and the guy they brought in from NZ to help with pre season , young ryan king from the academy side was the fastest , karl pryce was last'"
But you just stated that your not sure if everyone was included?
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| so all the the coaches and all the support staff are going to go to haigh hall to watch amos roberts and karl pryce run , come on pal show a bit of common sense , It most likely would have been 95% of the squad all the fit players will have been there,
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| Quote ="jameswk"so all the the coaches and all the support staff are going to go to haigh hall to watch amos roberts and karl pryce run , come on pal show a bit of common sense , It most likely would have been 95% of the squad all the fit players will have been there,'"
But you seem to be assuming which is more than unfair on Karl pryce.
Whats to say for instance that he hasnt been told to take it easy?
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| i am going off fact, not assumptions, He may well have been told to take it easy. He may well have been told he does not have to put the effort in all the other players do. he may well have been told the moon is made of green cheese. I have no idea what he was told , what i do know of all the players doing the circuit, like i said in my first post, For whatever reason MR pryce was the slowest round the course. Now IMHO and after talking to a player that was actualy at the session. I made the comment that he needs to get fitter. I think this is a fair post.
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| Quote ="jameswk" I made the comment that he needs to get fitter. I think this is a fair post.'"
Is this not what he and the rest of the squad are doing?
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