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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Who's PIRTEK ??'"
What's a Dukdoo ???
What's a butfer ???
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| A little OT, Pemps that has to be the most frightening avatar anyone has ever used on this forum. Then again it could be worse, it could have been a photo of what that kid looks like now.
When ever I see his face it just makes me think of antiques.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"A little OT, Pemps that has to be the most frightening avatar anyone has ever used on this forum. Then again it could be worse, it could have been a photo of what that kid looks like now.
When ever I see his face it just makes me think of antiques.'"
Little Miss Fauntelroy
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"A little OT, Pemps that has to be the most frightening avatar anyone has ever used on this forum. Then again it could be worse, it could have been a photo of what that kid looks like now.
When ever I see his face it just makes me think of antiques.'"
Didn't i see something in the paper a few weeks ago were he has changed his sex and is now a woman ( Not Pemps )
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| Quote ="ray13"Didn't i see something in the paper a few weeks ago were he has changed his sex and is now a woman ( Not Pemps )'"
He changed his sex quite a few years ago to my knowledge, although his name escapes me, maybe Pemps will know it.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"That should get some weight off him !!!!!!!!
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plenty of horizontal jogging but now ive got a horrendous image of piggy grinding away with all his overhang in motion
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| Quote ="ABP'"I noticed that.
Mark Riddell is still on holiday.
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Been on holiday for a year IMO
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| if nobby and co couldnt get riddel and fekka fit . what makes us think the the new coaching staff will do ?????
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Bailey39s-cream-of-the-crop.5859994.jp
"Mark Riddell has to do a lot of hard work to get himself fit, but when he's up and running, he's a very good player."
Bout bloody time'"
I think MaGuire is very eager to get Piggy back here in training. Your hooker is an eminent player to the team. They dictate your play from nearly every POTB. It is crucial IMO that a hooker is one of the fittest players in the squad and I wish we could see the return of 80 minute hookers - is it any wonder the World's best (Cameron Smith) can play for 80 minutes? He is on the field for the greatest amount of time so can continue to dictate the play, organise the team and get a greater foothold in the match. Would he be able to still do this coming off after 20 minutes? The NRL hookers stay on the field longer than the Super League ones. Is this a reason for the vast difference in standards?
I worry about Mark Riddell. He doesn't strike me as a professional athlete. Paramatta had a clear out & quickly got shut of Mark Riddell before Daniel Anderson arrived - in fact I think they released him from his contract a year early and from it Paramatta have noticeably improved. IMO Mike MaGuire would not have signed Mark Riddell had he been at the club and IMO I think that Mark Riddell based on last years form, the fact he is not here for training, and the fact he has (as Mike MaGuire has said) " to do a lot of hard work to get himself fit" will be the third choice hooker at the club at the moment & rightly so. Mark Riddell is supposed to be a professional athlete and I question his professionalism due to the lifestyle he openly admits to having, and his attitude due to the fact he has left the country twice in the time he has been here at crucial points in our calendar & subsequently will arrive late for pre-season training. How can MaGuire put set moves and structures together in practice when Riddell isn't here? Not to mention he is vastly unfit. He will have to prove himself above Leuluai and McIlorum that he should be the starting hooker for Wigan RL in 2010 under this new regime.
Bottom line: Your hooker should be one of your best players in the team due to the important role they have in your teams play. Is he one of the best players in the squad? Is he one of the best hookers in the competition? I don't think Mike MaGuire will start this season with a hooker he has already openly proclaimed 'unfit' and rightly so. He says everyone will have to prove themselves worthy of a first team place - IMO Riddell more so than others as he will arrive late for pre-season training and he is one of the players that needs to see to have the greatest improvement in both fitness and form.
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| Quote ="cadoo"due to the fact he has left the country twice in the time he has been here at crucial points in our calendar'"
I remember one of them when his life long best friend gave birth to a still born (well his wife did) and I have no issue with him going home for that. When was the other time?
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Is that the love child of Sean O'loughlin?
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Is that the love child of Sean O'loughlin?
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| Quote ="Conroy"I remember one of them when his life long best friend gave birth to a still born (well his wife did) and I have no issue with him going home for that. When was the other time?'"
It was Glenn Hall whos signed for bradford.It was there first child also
Anyone who as issues and problems with Mark going home for that need to look at themself very quickly.
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| Looks like we've found next seasons scape goat. Earlier than I expected too.
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| Quote ="jameswk"if nobby and co couldnt get riddel and fekka fit . what makes us think the the new coaching staff will do ?????'"
I think a more important question - though it's now academic, to be fair - is why couldn't Nobby and co get Riddel and Feka fit?
It's not like it wasn't part of Nobby's job.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I think a more important question - though it's now academic, to be fair - is why couldn't Nobby and co get Riddel and Feka fit?
It's not like it wasn't part of Nobby's job.'"
Nothing against Noble and the prior success he's had as a coach but the game always moves forward even tho some coaches don't!
I think Nobles style of coaching has had it's day.
The old boys network doesn't give the results the modern day game requires and if you can't move away from it the game leaves you behind
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| Quote ="Conroy"I remember one of them when his life long best friend gave birth to a still born (well his wife did) and I have no issue with him going home for that. When was the other time?'"
Fair enough to the above then.
The other time is now.
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| Quote ="cadoo"I think MaGuire is very eager to get Piggy back here in training. Your hooker is an eminent player to the team. They dictate your play from nearly every POTB. It is crucial IMO that a hooker is one of the fittest players in the squad and I wish we could see the return of 80 minute hookers - is it any wonder the World's best (Cameron Smith) can play for 80 minutes? He is on the field for the greatest amount of time so can continue to dictate the play, organise the team and get a greater foothold in the match. Would he be able to still do this coming off after 20 minutes? The NRL hookers stay on the field longer than the Super League ones. Is this a reason for the vast difference in standards?
I worry about Mark Riddell. He doesn't strike me as a professional athlete. Paramatta had a clear out & quickly got shut of Mark Riddell before Daniel Anderson arrived - in fact I think they released him from his contract a year early and from it Paramatta have noticeably improved. IMO Mike MaGuire would not have signed Mark Riddell had he been at the club and IMO I think that Mark Riddell based on last years form, the fact he is not here for training, and the fact he has (as Mike MaGuire has said) " to do a lot of hard work to get himself fit" will be the third choice hooker at the club at the moment & rightly so. Mark Riddell is supposed to be a professional athlete and I question his professionalism due to the lifestyle he openly admits to having, and his attitude due to the fact he has left the country twice in the time he has been here at crucial points in our calendar & subsequently will arrive late for pre-season training. How can MaGuire put set moves and structures together in practice when Riddell isn't here? Not to mention he is vastly unfit. He will have to prove himself above Leuluai and McIlorum that he should be the starting hooker for Wigan RL in 2010 under this new regime.
Bottom line: Your hooker should be one of your best players in the team due to the important role they have in your teams play. Is he one of the best players in the squad? Is he one of the best hookers in the competition? I don't think Mike MaGuire will start this season with a hooker he has already openly proclaimed 'unfit' and rightly so. He says everyone will have to prove themselves worthy of a first team place - IMO Riddell more so than others as he will arrive late for pre-season training and he is one of the players that needs to see to have the greatest improvement in both fitness and form.'"
Both St helens and leeds have had great hookers and a settled half-back pairing for a few years now. Does this have any relation to the fact they have been the best 2 teams?
Riddell would be better than last season if he was fit, but from last seasons form, I see him as a poor signing. Had we not signed him we could of spent that money on a prop or a world class half-back. Instead we are stuck with 3 hookers and Paul Deacon (who may do well, but he is not class anymore).
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| Quote ="Pemps"Looks like we've found next seasons scape goat. Earlier than I expected too.'"
Certainly not on my part. I thought I had been constructive in my comments. What parts of my post do you disagree with?
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| Quote ="JTB"www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJJwo87Q_zE'"
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Both St helens and leeds have had great hookers and a settled half-back pairing for a few years now. Does this have any relation to the fact they have been the best 2 teams?'"
Certainly. Matt Orford, Richie Myler and Sean Long are just a few examples of new halfbacks at struggling clubs.
Saints and Leeds have always had someone to lead the around the park. Keiron Cunningham has done it for Saints & Kevin Sinfield has done it for Leeds. I hope Sam Tomkins can do the same for us, but he is very young & still fairly inexperienced compared to some of the halfbacks in this league. That's why the Paul Deacon signing is an excellent one - for his experience and coaching alone.
Quote Riddell would be better than last season if he was fit, but from last seasons form, I see him as a poor signing. Had we not signed him we could of spent that money on a prop or a world class half-back. Instead we are stuck with 3 hookers and Paul Deacon (who may do well, but he is not class anymore).'"
Riddell would definitely be better if he was fit. Let's not forget this guy has played state of origin before. There is an excellent player in Riddell and it irritates me we haven't see this from him. Do I see him as a poor signing? So far yes. I would have liked to have moved Leuluai to hooker with McIlorum and looked to an experienced halfback to partner Sam Tomkins - Greg Bird? But hindsight is a wonderful thing I guess. Riddell is one of the players Shaun Wane must have been referring to when he has said he wants to see a '20%' improvement in players & Riddell's name is the only one Mike MaGuire has mentioned in regards to fitness which suggests to me he is very frustrated he is away and is eager for him to return to start work immediantly.
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