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| Shaun Briscoe
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Kevin Sinfield
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I've gave my reasons on the International and VT forum.
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| Martin Gleeson??....Not a chance...
1. He isn't even in the squad.
2. The coach doesn't rate him. If he did, he'd never have robbed Wigan of £100k for him....
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"The coach doesn't rate him.'"
Then why make him England captain and play maker only last year?
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| I'd be tempted to give the following a go
Shaun Briscoe
Tom Briscoe
Chris Bridge
Michael Shenton
Ryan Hall
Sam Tomkins
Kyle Eastmond
Jamie Peacock
Kevin Sinfield
James Graham
Gareth Ellis
Ben Westwood
Sam Burgess
Subs
Eorl Crabtree
Adrian Morley
John Wilkin
James Roby
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| Quote ="cadoo"Then why make him England captain and play maker only last year?'"
Maybe 2 or 3 weeks working with him on a full time basis finally opened the coaches eyes????...
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I'd be tempted to give the following a go
Shaun Briscoe
Tom Briscoe
Chris Bridge
Michael Shenton
Ryan Hall
Sam Tomkins
Kyle Eastmond
Jamie Peacock
Kevin Sinfield
James Graham
Gareth Ellis
Ben Westwood
Sam Burgess
Subs
Eorl Crabtree
Adrian Morley
John Wilkin
James Roby'"
I'd go with Smith outside Bridge or preferably but Fox outside of Smith. He's going to union but he's a decent player, at least he offers something attacking-wise and he won't be facing Inglis next week.
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| Peacock has to go back to prop either starting or on the bench.
He was supposed to be the right sided back row man as Ellis was left side.
Lockyer saw him out of position and the long pass went out. it found Inglis in 10 yards of space. McGuire and Smith were caught out but it was Peacock's absence that caused the gap and their first try.
Lockyer tried the long pass going right but Ellis was in position and the defence shifted across, tackle made.
Everything came off down their left side attack, nothing happened down their right side.
Morley and Peacock were below their best, Burgess and Ellis were very good as was Crabtree who has to be picked again.
Tomkins and Eastmond for 6 & 7. Smith to the wing.
We could also do with a new coach. Who though?
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| Having watched the England v Australia game on television and the France v New Zealand game in person, I really think we can win next week. Moi Moi was up for it and allowed himself to get distracted. Fakir put him on his backside big style which lifted the crowd no end. Still don't rate Lance Hohaia in defence. Tommy played at hooker and looked more than comfortable. Some of Benji Marshall's passes and dummies were superb and Sam Perrett was outstanding, but the scoreline flattered the Kiwis in my opinion. France handed them two tries on a plate and the ref matched that.
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| It all depends on which half performance we bring to the game, cant afford the start we had yesterday, but saying that they dont have an Inglis playing for them
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Jesus wept....
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Don't get me wrong he didn't look out of place or anything, he just didn't trouble them at all, maybe 6 would have been a better rating.
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"It all depends on which half performance we bring to the game, cant afford the start we had yesterday, but saying that they dont have an Inglis playing for them'"
France were more than a match for them in the first half. They should have been ahead but for the referee.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Having watched the England v Australia game on television and the France v New Zealand game in person, I really think we can win next week. Moi Moi was up for it and allowed himself to get distracted. Fakir put him on his backside big style which lifted the crowd no end. Still don't rate Lance Hohaia in defence. Tommy played at hooker and looked more than comfortable. Some of Benji Marshall's passes and dummies were superb and Sam Perrett was outstanding, but the scoreline flattered the Kiwis in my opinion. France handed them two tries on a plate and the ref matched that.'"
France ran out of steam on a grand style which is understandable with all the injury and ilness problems. The Kiwi's had alot more of a struggle overall against a similar standard French side then England did in the mid season test. We have huge hope imo if we turn up from the first whistle and play without fear.
The team selection has to be spot on aswell for the first time in Tony Smiths England career and after watching the Oz game on the internet just now for the first time i'd go-
Briscoe
Smith
Ellis(to steady that right side which will be targeted)
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
Eastmond
Graham
Sinfield(got us rolling from 9 in the second half)
Peacock
Westwood
Burgess
Roby(just ask the lad to run himself into the ground and trouble the kiwi's without having to distribute from dummy half)
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| FB Shaun Briscoe
RW Lee Smith
RC Kyle Eastmond
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SO Danny McGuire
SH Sam Tomkins
P James Graham
H Kevin Sinfield
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SR Jamie Peacock
SR Sam Burgess
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| Quote ="Grimmy"FB Shaun Briscoe
RW Lee Smith
RC Kyle Eastmond
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LW Ryan Hall
SO Danny McGuire
SH Sam Tomkins
P James Graham
H Kevin Sinfield
P Adrian Morley
SR Jamie Peacock
SR Sam Burgess
LF Gareth Ellis
S Gareth Carvell
S Eorl Crabtree
S Richie Myler
S Ben Westwood'"
Are you picking him on the basis that things can only get better?
After watching the replay i actually thought he played worse then i'd realised at the ground which i thought would be impossible.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Are you picking him on the basis that things can only get better?
After watching the replay i actually thought he played worse then i'd realised at the ground which i thought would be impossible.'"
He must not play at all, and put Lee Smith on the wing, he was fine our there. Eastmond at 7 with Myler on the bench for me.
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| His confidence looked shot to pieces near the end yesterday and he simply doesn't deserve a place.
Tomkins and Eastmond to start with Myler on the bench is the way to go. Give these superb young lads a chance in the biggest game of their careers.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Are you picking him on the basis that things can only get better?
After watching the replay i actually thought he played worse then i'd realised at the ground which i thought would be impossible.'"
He had a crack and things didn't come off for him. At least he wasn't anonymous like the guy I did drop (Roby)
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Are you picking him on the basis that things can only get better?
After watching the replay i actually thought he played worse then i'd realised at the ground which i thought would be impossible.'"
How anyone could pick McGuire after that performance, and considering the performance of the Eastmond/Tomkins combination in the last 15 minutes, I will never know.
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| Is there any chance of watching the game again online?
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| Quote ="Smurf"How anyone could pick McGuire after that performance, and considering the performance of the Eastmond/Tomkins combination in the last 15 minutes, I will never know.'"
It was actually superb, I would love to have Eastmond at Wigan and I am sure saints fans would love Tomkins at Saints. Even Saddened started a thread on how awesome Tomkins played.
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| Quote ="post"Is there any chance of watching the game again online?'"
BBC IPlayer has it on for a week.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"It was actually superb, I would love to have Eastmond at Wigan and I am sure saints fans would love Tomkins at Saints. Even Saddened started a thread on how awesome Tomkins played.'"
We have Sam tied down to a long term deal and Saints don't have Eastmond signed up and he has an agent that will convince him to sign for the highest bidder...............i hope thats us.
If it is then our halfback pairing(and hooker with Tommy moving there) is sorted for the next 10 years.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Maybe 2 or 3 weeks working with him on a full time basis finally opened the coaches eyes????...
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So he back tracked.
Shocker.
I'm banned off the Wire forum but this:
Quote You could have Wayne Bennett coaching that England side and it'd be no different....'"
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| Quote ="post"Is there any chance of watching the game again online?'"
I have both the England V Australia and France V N.Z. on V+ can alway put them on DVD for you and post them to you if you cannot find them on line.
The England one should be on BBC i player.
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Quote ="Andy Greg"I have both the England V Australia and France V N.Z. on V+ can alway put them on DVD for you and post them to you if you cannot find them on line.
The England one should be on BBC i player.'"
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Australia/
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The England one should be on BBC i player.'"
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