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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The only thing Bradford may have is more cap room and they have a couple of ex Quins players there.
Other than that i really don't know why a player wouldn't pick us over Bradford as we seem better in most areas
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If you really had to look at it from and unbiased view point 99% of the time you'd pick Wigan over Bradford imo as we are in a much stronger position.'"
I'd agree with all of the above"Waiting for irate Bulls fan to turn up".
The only reason that I can see him going to Bradford over us is larger salary and possibly ex-quins player being there, I just hope that if this is more than just a rumour that we actually make a move for him.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"
Either way with IL having very close ties with Quins he'll know if Bradford are sniffing around he'll also know
-How much they've offered,
-What he's currently on wages wise
We should in theory be on much stronger negotiating grounds with the previous history IL has with him and the enthusiasm Wane shows.
BTW can IL not just offer his quins counter part a transfer fee and then accept it himself and walk away with the dosh? You know Whelan would have done it'"
All of the above are reasons/suppositions why I'd be surprised if we bid for LMS at all. As IL has interests in both clubs transferring a player from one to the other would probably be seen in a very dim light by the RFL.
Mind you it never stopped the Hethrington's with Hull and Leeds...
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| Quote ="DaveO"All of the above are reasons/suppositions why I'd be surprised if we bid for LMS at all. As IL has interests in both clubs transferring a player from one to the other would probably be seen in a very dim light by the RFL.
Mind you it never stopped the Hethrington's with Hull and Leeds...
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It's neither Wigan's or IL's problem tho imo. If they RFL approved his takeover of Wigan then it's their problem not ours.
At the end of the day we've as much of a right to bid for anyone as say Bradford have.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Another option could be to play Roberts at centre (where he has played in the NRL) and play Ainscough on the wing.'"
You and I often sing from the same hymn sheet.
However, on this occasion, we're in different churches!
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| Quote ="Boris"who is LMS?'"
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| Quote ="Boris"who is LMS?'"
Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"It's neither Wigan's or IL's problem tho imo. If they RFL approved his takeover of Wigan then it's their problem not ours.
At the end of the day we've as much of a right to bid for anyone as say Bradford have.'"
How do you know what the terms of IL owning two teams were? As far as I know he has not found a buyer for his shares in Quins.
While he has stepped back from running Quins completely if he still technically owns them regardless of what right we have to bid I'd expect him to play the politically correct game and not do so.
IL is not one to incur the wrath of the RFL nor do stuff that would get Wigan seen as returning to Mo's ruthless ways IMO.
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| Quote ="DaveO"How do you know what the terms of IL owning two teams were? As far as I know he has not found a buyer for his shares in Quins.
While he has stepped back from running Quins completely if he still technically owns them regardless of what right we have to bid I'd expect him to play the politically correct game and not do so.
IL is not one to incur the wrath of the RFL nor do stuff that would get Wigan seen as returning to Mo's ruthless ways IMO.
Dave'"
IL is not stupid enough to go into an agreement which puts him at a disadvantage to the rest of SL
With the way the RFL has bankrolled and brought Quins back from the brink of death on more than one occasion the last thing they would do is force a backer of Quins to pull out of them by trying to force his hand or put restrictions on him. If it was any other club imo that IL would have owned previously to buying Wigan the RFL would have been a hell of a lot more tough with him.
Obviously this is all just speculation on both parts from me and you Dave but I’d tend to believe that if a player was at Quins who IL really wanted we’d go for him if other clubs were sniffing around.
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| Quote ="R Douglas"Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook'"
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Who?'"
No, Who is a Time Lord. LMS is a prop forward.
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| Quote ="R Douglas"Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook'"
Is he the bloke/judge on 'Strictly Come Dancing' ?
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Is he the bloke/judge on 'Strictly Come Dancing' ?'"
Just a reminder for you, I taped the Grand Final for you whilst you were watching Strictly last week like you asked!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Just a reminder for you, I taped the Grand Final for you whilst you were watching Strictly last week like you asked!
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Hope its not on that Betamax recorder again, it wouldn't play on my Ferguson Videostar last time !!!
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| I'd like to see us throw at couple of £100k at Quins and see their response.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Worst idea you've ever come up with, don't think Roberts at centre would work. Doesn't seem big enough or powerful enough or even have the quality passing skills to be a centre.'"
Beg to differ here, whenever Roberts has drifted across and passed he has shown he has great passing skills, I'm sure I remember a few bullets right on the mark. He is a quick finisher, but I do not think he would suppliment either Richards or Ainscough, as their styles of play do not match very well, unlike that of say Carmont and Richards.
Which is why if Carmont wanted a two year deal, I would be very tempted to do so, however a contract that gives him one year with the option of either another year playing if both sides agree or some sort of coaching role to help bring through Goulding/Thornley/Pryce if he is not playing, would be preferable, as he over the past two years has shown up most Superleague centres, and I would rather we kept that ability and expertese with us than let it go elsewhere.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"I think its a job for Wane to sell the club to LMS.'"
I would be thrilled to sign Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook. I think he is a top player and will most likely be a regular England international IMO. Would love him to play along side Paul Prescott.
BUT I would not enter a bidding war with Bradford for him. I would only get him on a free. With Paul Prescott, Eamon O'carroll and possibly Ben Davies around the place and much more room on the cap from Fielden's likely departure and maybe Feka's I would sooner wait till 2010.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"IL is not stupid enough to go into an agreement which puts him at a disadvantage to the rest of SL
With the way the RFL has bankrolled and brought Quins back from the brink of death on more than one occasion the last thing they would do is force a backer of Quins to pull out of them by trying to force his hand or put restrictions on him. If it was any other club imo that IL would have owned previously to buying Wigan the RFL would have been a hell of a lot more tough with him.
Obviously this is all just speculation on both parts from me and you Dave but I’d tend to believe that if a player was at Quins who IL really wanted we’d go for him if other clubs were sniffing around.'"
Well it isn't supposed to be allowed for someone to own two clubs so it's IL who owes the RFL the favour.
But regardless of that or what the rules may be I believe IL will stay clear of going after Quins players while he is technically still the owner.
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| What is with all the Carmont talk? I thought he was contracted for next year, or are you talking about the season after?
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| Will it happen ? According to the papers it will !
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| Quote ="Gary High"Will it happen ? According to the papers it will !'"
According to the papers, we sold Farrell because we were about to sign Sonny-Bill Williams.
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| Quote ="W.F"What is with all the Carmont talk? I thought he was contracted for next year, or are you talking about the season after?'"
He's not signed for next year. Apparently we've offered him a 1 year deal and he's trying to get a 2 year deal.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well it isn't supposed to be allowed for someone to own two clubs so it's IL who owes the RFL the favour. '"
I can’t see how he does? It’s the opposite way round imo as he’s doing the RFL a favour by staying with Quins. If they forced his hand and a made him pick Quins would be in the poop.
Quote But regardless of that or what the rules may be I believe IL will stay clear of going after Quins players while he is technically still the owner.'"
Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one Dave.
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| While I think LMS is a good player I think he is being a little over hyped, I certainly do not rate him as one of the top Props who qualify for England never mind in SL.
I see a little of the Thorman syndrome in this one, a lad going pretty well from a non heartland area and the press jump all over it. He needs a few good seasons under his belt yet for mine, i think he has not had the impact he had last year.
If it were a choice between LMS and someone like Griffin, at the moment I would have gone for Griffin.
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| [urlhttp://news.leaguehq.com.au/breaking-news-sport/dallas-johnson-may-sign-off-with-storm-20091016-h0sp.html[/url
mods,
You may want to put this under the signings thread.
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