I just hope Maurie Fa'asavalu doesn't get picked. It's a disgrace he was ever picked cos he'd lived over here :/ Does it just sum up the talent of this country when we have to rely on foreigners who 'qualify' to play for us

Excellent post

What difference does it make?

If he wants to play for England and he's ok to do so then so be it IMO.

Same goes for Dobson before the next world cup

Apart from him not being English, not much



Cue other sports do it so why shouldn't we stoop to their levels argument.

I just think it's wrong, call me old fashioned but he wasn't born in this country and has no ancestry from here. I wouldn't agree with Pat Ritchards playing for GB either

Pat does have ancestry though. I have no issue there, it is when you qualify on residency that it's wrong imo

So much so that I understand his own sister was born in Ireland before the family emigrated! Just how Irish does he need to be?

Yeah if they have ancestry then I don't have that big of a problem, but qualifying to play for a country by living there for 3 years seems a bit desperate from England in my opinion

A club coach should never coach the national side so they cant be acoused of favourtism.

Id say he is English tho.........

Smith could pick both Bridge and Gleeson at right centre and we would still get mullered.

I guess this would make Shenton a shoe-in for right centre.

Well that's your opinion I suppose. IMO he's Samoan

well your opinion wud be wrong!

Oh and my dad is bigger than your dad!

Where is that again

and there was me trying to be polite about your opinion and not laugh at it

Shenton normally plays left centre for Cas though?

ITV text is saying Senior may be considered if he wants to play Intl Rugby again.
Forwards llook quite strong the halves and backs are truly awful.
Fox, Shenton, Bridge are nowhere near Intl quality.
As for Wire players, they can't defend.
Their club's defensive record this season is a disgrace.

Wonderful! I appreciate he has had a good season, but he has failed time and time and time again at the top level and has no chance of being around for the World Cup.

To select Senior over Gleeson would indicate to me along with the 4 Wire players that this team is very much shaping up to be a jobs for the boys team

I hold little hope out of Locky getting selected over Sinfield or Tomkins getting selected over Myler at this rate.

Our Strongest centre at the moment must be Atkins, who has decided to opt out prior to his Warrington move. I bet Smith tried dead hard to pursuade him to commit to the 4 nations?

In my opinion our backline for the tournament should be:
Briscoe, Hall, Shenton, Senior, Fox, Tomkins, Myler

A very young inexperienced backline but there playing in England at familiar grounds behind the best pack in the tournament.

Whilst i'm all for blooding the youngsters ready for 2013, them getting pasted by the Aussies now who will only get better is a worry.

Agree with you, except about Gleeson.

rather than getting the old guard pasted ???

lets play the best players we have that are available - young or old

But if they're getting pasted now then their morale won't me much cop come 2013 against players who they've never beat who have got even better.