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| Does anybody else love the xfiles music during long video ref decisions - like the riley try/shove
I was wetting myself laughing
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"Silverwood was diabolical tonight !
Absolutely awful.
Refs have a thankless job, but he was dire.'"
Silverwood should be stood down from top filght after that performance, he simply isnt good enough and no amount of excuses from the RFL can justify his position.
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| I think it was the St Helens v Wakefield game a few weeks back, when I think it was Ganson who was the video ref at the time, went back to have a look at an elbow into the face of Graham. Now I'm pretty sure at the time the ref didn't ask the VR to look at that incident, but he still did anyway.
Why couldnt Ganson do that tonight if he knew for sure that the try shouldnt of stood?
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"Silverwood should be stood down from top filght after that performance, he simply isnt good enough and no amount of excuses from the RFL can justify his position.'"
Totally agree. Like a poster said before refs have a thankless task but he was really shocking last night.
At the moment Ganson is easily the best ref in Superleague, but then look at the competition, frightening!!
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Does anybody else love the xfiles music during long video ref decisions - like the riley try/shove
I was wetting myself laughing'"
Yeah, was hilarious.
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| thought silverwood was excellent tonight.
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| Was a clear knock on and should not have been a try, watched again and the wigan player clearly has his arm in there, no try penalty to Warrington.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Was a clear knock on and should not have been a try, watched again and the wigan player clearly has his arm in there, no try penalty to Warrington.'"
what was a clear knock on?
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| Quote ="inside_man"what was a clear knock on?'" Westwoods knock on for the first try.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Westwoods knock on for the first try.'"
rubbish.
Every decision in the first half went for you, we had about 3 knock ons against us when the ball didn't even leave the players grasp.
EDIT: i meant i was disagreeing with you about it being ripped out and being a penalty to warrington, i think it was just a clear knock on.
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| Whoever mentioned about Cummins being untouchable has put his finger on the nub of this problem.
Cummins was a shockingly bad and famously biased referee in his own right. He's the only ref I ever remember beng physically attacked on the pitch because he'd annoyed the fans of one side so much. How the hell he ever qualified to be a controller of referees, I don't know. I can only imagine it was a 'jobs for the boys' thing up at Red Hall. But he now seems to be running his stable of refs like a personal fief. They are answerable to no-one, yet get it wrong time and again, often in the glare of the TV cameras. Even with the benefit of video replay, they regularly make crucial mistakes.
Silverwood alone has made mistakes of so serious a nature that, if replicated in a non-recreational industry, would mean him facing some kind of reprimand. His bizarre deafness to the hooter earlier this season, which allowed Hull KR to score what was in effect the winning try. The Saints v Wigan match in which Wigan incurred something like 20+ penalties by half-time; most of them were for virtually nothing, yet the second half of a match that was playing to a full house was rendered hull and void thanks to Silverwood's showmanship.
The guy is an out and out menace to the game IMO, but then his boss was too, and look what he managed to achieve. Unfortunately that's British RL all over.
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| Quote ="inside_man"rubbish.
Every decision in the first half went for you, we had about 3 knock ons against us when the ball didn't even leave the players grasp.'"
???????????????????????????????????????????
HE'S AGREEING WITH YOU, READ WHAT HE'S SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is saying it was a Knock on!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"???????????????????????????????????????????
HE'S AGREEING WITH YOU, READ WHAT HE'S SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is saying it was a Knock on!!!!!!!!!!
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Read the last bit though.....
Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Was a clear knock on and should not have been a try, watched again and the wigan player clearly has his arm in there, no try penalty to Warrington.'"
He's saying it shouldn't be a try, but that the wigan player ripped the ball out. That's what i was saying was wrong.
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| Quote ="inside_man"rubbish.
Every decision in the first half went for you, we had about 3 knock ons against us when the ball didn't even leave the players grasp.
EDIT: i meant i was disagreeing with you about it being ripped out and being a penalty to warrington, i think it was just a clear knock on.'" You must not have watched it, a blind man on a galloping horse can see the wigan players arm in there.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Whoever mentioned about Cummins being untouchable has put his finger on the nub of this problem.'"
It was me. Silverwood is the worst of the current refs by a mile, he has made many a crucial error this season but it will only get worse the longer Cummings is allowed to continue treating the refs as he own commando team carrying out his agenda whilst treating his job as an excuse for a jolly up.
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| I agree Silverwood is by far the worst ref in SL, something needs to be done,posted last week when he was announced as Friday's ref, clueless without a video ref.
Briers 20m restart was 10m right of centre
Also the touch's do not help out at all.
Thought the players showed great restaint when obvious wrong decisions went against them.
And as someone else mentioned what's Hemmings going on about " Warrington only 20 points down " near the end of the game.
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| Went to London today to watch the Quins v Salford game.
Alibert is actually the worst ref in SL.
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| Sometimes when you go home and watch it again you see that the ref wasn't as bad as you thought at the game.
However, in this case I thought Silverwood was worse than he appeared at the game.
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| People have got it all wrong all the refs are awful it needs sorting. Ganson is the best of the worst bunch.
IMO we should try and give training to those who play rugby league every week on a saturday and sunday.
We should also sack cummins. He was the worst and now he is in control of all of them.
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| I thought Silverwod was the poorest ref I have seen this season, & that is saying something
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| Agree Steve Ganson is the best ref by a country mile.
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| Quote ="rochdale warrior"Agree Steve Ganson is the best ref by a country mile.'"
He probably is, if for nothing else, he isnt afraid to show a red card. None of the others are brave enough.
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| Also can hear the hooter
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"People have got it all wrong all the refs are awful it needs sorting. Ganson is the best of the worst bunch.
IMO we should try and give training to those who play rugby league every week on a saturday and sunday.
We should also sack cummins. He was the worst and now he is in control of all of them.'"
You and Cruncher have it spot on! The standard has been set by Cummins - God help us!
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| Petition to bring back Russel Smith & Ashley Klein anyone?
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