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| Roberts
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Sam
Tommy
Coley
Phelps
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Fielden
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Hanson
I would like to see Sam and Tommy playing together for the rest of the season otherwise we won't have a hope of putting in any consistent performances.
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| With Catalans forwards being big as they are I wouldnt be suprised if Noble plays Mossop at prop.
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| Quote ="GingerWiganer"With Catalans forwards being big as they are I wouldnt be suprised if Noble plays Mossop at prop.'"
Considering that you'd play your 4 biggest props being
Coley
Fielden
Prescott
Feka.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Considering that you'd play your 4 biggest props being
Coley
Fielden
Prescott
Feka.'"
What I meant was using him more as taking the ball up believe me we cant afford to let them get on top of us like we did when we last played them!
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| Quote ="GingerWiganer"With Catalans forwards being big as they are I wouldnt be suprised if Noble plays Mossop at prop.'"
The size of the Catalan team is probably why Pryce will play, plus he did o.k. last week.
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| They are a huge side but away from home there not the same side, if we start well and don't allow them into the game we'll go onto win, however if we start dropping ball and giving away lots of penalties (Fielden) then we'll be in for a closer game than it should be.
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| They concede plenty of points Catalans so we don't need to be matching them with 5 props and making it into a down the middle battle.
If we play with width like the last 2 games i'm confident we'll get more points then them.
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| I think I would go with;
Phelps... playing well and solid
Roberts... Starting to find some form and is finding some scoring form.
Gleeson... If Fully fit ??
Carmont
Richards
Tomkins... With smith out for the season, we need to see if the tommy/Tomkins partnership is going to work long term.. otherwise we need to sort out another half back asap...
Lulu.. showing good form and will move to hooker when riddell takes a breather
Prescott... solid and make few mistakes
Riddell... with Mike Mc out.. no other option... yet to convince me yet!!
Coley... starting to show some good form... most effective when running second row lines..
Bailey... playing well and good defensively
Mossop.. according to luke R playing well for Hudds..
Tomkins... may blossom in his more preferred role of loose forward..
Feka...
Fielden...
Pryce... we need a back in the team with both gleeson and carmont not 100%
Flannagan
I went with Flannagan instead of Hansen on the bench as I would prefer players who are near full fitness playing... the last thing we need is for hansen to play and be out injured because his injury wasn't allowed to heal properly, also Flannagen can play loose forward/six, second row and hooker... so his versatility means if we loose one of those players carrying an injury.. we have some cover without making to many positional changes as all that does is cause problems...
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Bird included in the Dragons squad.
I thought he was still in Australia appealing against his conviction.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3759[/url'"
I would like to know why even though Bird is banned from obtaining a UK visa to play for a British Club, he is free to enter the UK at all.
He should have been placed on the UK Suspects Index which would prevent him getting past customs due to being convicted of a serious criminal offence.
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| strange how bird has been found guilty of glassing his girlfriend and in all probibility will have to serve a custodial sentence at some point, and yet she is living with him in france, both their families are said to be happy....bit strange don't u think?! if someone had glassed me the i wouldn't want anything to do with them, let alone live with them!!
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Amos Roberts, Darrell Goudling, George Carmont, Pat Richards, Thomas Leuluai, Stuart Fielden, Mark Riddell, Iafeta Paleaaesina, Phil Bailey, Joel Tomkins, Andy Coley, Harrison Hansen, Paul Prescott, Karl Pryce, Cameron Phelps, Martin Gleeson, Lee Mossop, Sam Tomkins, Mark Flanagan.
Hansens not broken anything and been cleared to play.
I'd go with:
Phelps
Roberts
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Leuluai
Coley
Riddell
Prescott
Bailey
Hansen
Joel
Feka
Fielden
Mossop
Flanagan'"
For me
Phelps
Roberts
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Gleeson
Sam
Coley
Leuleui
Prescott
Hansen
Bailey
Joel
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Feka
Fielden
Pig Boy (through sheer lack of options)
Mossop
Pryce and Flannagan to miss out
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"For me
Phelps
Roberts
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Gleeson
Sam
Coley
Leuleui
Prescott
Hansen
Bailey
Joel
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Feka
Fielden
Pig Boy (through sheer lack of options)
Mossop
Pryce and Flannagan to miss out'"
Riddell deserves his place on form over the past few weeks.
This witch hunt against him from certain sections is stupid. His form is improving and has never been that bad anyway.
We've had and have far worse players.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Riddell deserves his place on form over the past few weeks.
This witch hunt against him from certain sections is stupid. His form is improving and has never been that bad anyway.
We've had and have far worse players.'"
I haven't personally got a "witch hunt" going on.... I just don't think he is showing the form that got him into the parramatta and st george teams... for the money he is on I would expect more....especially as the pitches are dry now and more suited to the aussie imports...
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"I haven't personally got a "witch hunt" going on.... I just don't think he is showing the form that got him into the parramatta and st george teams... for the money he is on I would expect more....especially as the pitches are dry now and more suited to the aussie imports...'"
I must be watching a different player over the past month or so because i think he's been playing pretty well.
I think he's got more to offer but his form isn't too bad.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I must be watching a different player over the past month or so because i think he's been playing pretty well.
I think he's got more to offer but his form isn't too bad.'"
I don't think he is doing much wrong... I just don't see him as a world class player on current form and seens as though thats what we/I was expecting... The reality is somewhat different to my expectation... So do we have a right to be somewhat dissapointed after losing micky higham... for someone who isnt any better on current form...
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"I don't think he is doing much wrong... I just don't see him as a world class player on current form and seens as though thats what we/I was expecting... The reality is somewhat different to the reality... So do we have a right to be somewhat dissapointed after losing micky higham... for someone who isnt any better on current form...'"
Rubbish
I'm getting tired of posting this.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=374&hs2=2009&hp2=2075&stat=tries&season=2008[/url
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Rubbish'"
Well constructed argument their Rogues?? Apart from Mickey being injured at the moment... last year mickey was a consistently good performer, which was one of the reasons why so many never wanted him to leave.....
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"Well constructed argument their Rogues?? Apart from Mickey being injured at the moment... last year mickey was a consistently good performer, which was one of the reasons why so many never wanted him to leave.....'"
i wanted him to leave.
Higham was consistent though, consistently average. Riddell showed me more in the first few games of the season, when he was playing badly, than one scoot mick did in the 2nd half of last.
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"Well constructed argument their Rogues?? Apart from Mickey being injured at the moment... last year mickey was a consistently good performer, which was one of the reasons why so many never wanted him to leave.....'"
I've edited my post above to show the reasons.
Higham was never a consistently good performer for Wigan in his three seasons at the club.
His errors and penalties conceded were disgraceful for a so called top class hooker. His passing was abysmal.
So that leaves his scooting and metres from dummy half.
Riddell is doing better at that ( see the stats)
Higham was a badge kissing scarf waving failure.
Higha is the third best hooker at Warrington.
Do you not think that their improvement in form has coincided with Highams absence?
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| Quote ="inside_man"i wanted him to leave.
Higham was consistent though, consistently average. Riddell showed me more in the first few games of the season, when he was playing badly, than one scoot mick did in the 2nd half of last.'"
I don't want to turn this into a "witch hunt".. but piggy was very poor in the first few games, which is one of the reasons he got slatted so much along with roberts...
How short peoples memories are... micky was one of the reason we did well in the play-off always giving 120%... can the same be said for riddell ATM
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've edited my post above to show the reasons.
Higham was never a consistently good performer for Wigan in his three seasons at the club.
His errors and penalties conceded were disgraceful for a so called top class hooker. His passing was abysmal.
So that leaves his scooting and metres from dummy half.
Riddell is doing better at that ( see the stats)
Higham was a badge kissing scarf waving failure.
Higha is the third best hooker at Warrington.
Do you not think that their improvement in form has coincided with Highams absence?'"
Statistics damn Statistics.... If only the game was played like a game of Topps Trumps... I can only say what I see rather than spouting stats... micky had his faults as do all players but he was effective and was very dangerous at times in games... Like I said many on here were calling for him to stay (along with Stevo & Eddie)... Could the same be said for Piggy on the form he has shown up until the last few weeks??
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Riddell deserves his place on form over the past few weeks.
This witch hunt against him from certain sections is stupid. His form is improving and has never been that bad anyway.
We've had and have far worse players.'"
Not a chance............what games have you been watching? Riddell needs benching or dropping if only to give him the impetus to get fit. Leuleui starting and riddell off the bench......otherwise your other option is bench leului (which is FAR from deserved), or start with Sam and Tommy in the middle, and then mess around with the halves again just to give fat boy a breather after hes knackered from 20 minutes of hooking ....and as we saw early season, we dont want to go for the option of messing with the halves AGAIN!
Of all the options I prefer the first one. .....Gleese to S/o....Sam to S/h...Tommy Leu to Hooker.....fat boy keeping the bench warm if hes lucky.
The only other feasible option is Flannagan on the bench to interchange with the pig....but frankly i dont think flannagan is up to the standard required to play as a SL interchange hooker yet, just as much as the pig isnt the required standard to be a starting SL hooker!
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"Not a chance............what games have you been watching? Riddell needs benching or dropping if only to give him the impetus to get fit. Leuleui starting and riddell off the bench......otherwise your other option is bench leului (which is FAR from deserved), or start with Sam and Tommy in the middle, and then mess around with the halves again just to give fat boy a breather after hes knackered from 20 minutes of hooking
....and as we saw early season, we dont want to go for the option of messing with the halves AGAIN!
Of all the options I prefer the first one. .....Gleese to S/o....Sam to S/h...Tommy Leu to Hooker.....fat boy keeping the bench warm if hes lucky.
The only other feasible option is Flannagan on the bench to interchange with the pig....but frankly i dont think flannagan is up to the standard required to play as a SL interchange hooker yet, just as much as the pig isnt the required standard to be a starting SL hooker!'"
I understand what your saying and partially agree but you need to be a little more open minded, Riddell has improved vastly since the Celtic game IMO. The Hull KR game he was not bad tbh just McIlorum had a really good game.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"I understand what your saying and partially agree but you need to be a little more open minded, Riddell has improved vastly since the Celtic game IMO. The Hull KR game he was not bad tbh just McIlorum had a really good game.'"
I agree with your comments...lets hope he just gets better and better, he's some way to go to meet the expectations I/we have had before he arrived... + he's here for another two years so lets he does!!
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| Going back to the squad, Catalans will have all their big men on the field Friday, we need to do the same. Pryce and Mossop must play.
If Hansen has damaged the ligaments in his hand/wrist then he shouldn't play. A bad knock could make it worse and really put him out for weeks.
Hansen and Flanagan to miss out unless there are other injuries we don't know about.
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