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| Tomkins and Myler would be simply outstanding and we'd be looking at a pair that literally could run the show for us for 10+ years.
We'd have to pay big money for him but i think he's worth it tbh. I'm not overly convinced Lenagan would shell out for him though as even though he paid 100k for Gleeson you'd be talking double that plus for Myler.
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| I think if we are to operate with a young 6 and 7 we defo need a big strong pack, especially 2 more good props, otherwise the halves won't have the room to play.
I would like 3 new signings if not 4.
two new props (an enforcer and and impact) and 7 and an FB
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| has a salford fan i dont read into paper talk to much but befors u go spending x amount of money on myler, he isnt that special to be honest last year i could of peformed in nl1 at 7 and i am 20 stone he is a confidence player but he does go missing last week against cats between him and goulding cost us at least 3 tries.in the leeds game even wigan could of beat them in that game hahaha.u need to sort out ur pack before buying a 7 give myler a season before u r calling him the next andy gregory-not slagging him off but he needs to impress me in every game and not every other 1
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Tomkins and Myler would be simply outstanding and we'd be looking at a pair that literally could run the show for us for 10+ years.
We'd have to pay big money for him but i think he's worth it tbh. I'm not overly convinced Lenagan would shell out for him though as even though he paid 100k for Gleeson you'd be talking double that plus for Myler.'"
If the asking price is genuinely £200 K plus for an 18-year-old who's only just come onto the scene, then you're right - IL quite rightly would not be prepared to pay it. Nor would any chairman in the competition.
However, I'd expect it to be considerably less than that.
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Barry McDermott's doing it for us !!!
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| [url=http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/96379/Briers-to-bow-out-at-BarrowBarrow[/url is just a smokescreen - he'll be our star halfback signing
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| Quote ="JTB"[url=http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/96379/Briers-to-bow-out-at-BarrowBarrow[/url is just a smokescreen - he'll be our star halfback signing
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Also says Karl Pryce has declined a loan move to Leigh at the bottom.
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| Realisticly I think our side next year will be,
Richards
Roberts
Gleeson
Carmont
Ainscough
Sam
Tommy(got a feeling he'll stay at 7 )
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Riddell
Lynch
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Realisticly I think our side next year will be,
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Gleeson
Carmont
Ainscough
Sam
Tommy(got a feeling he'll stay at 7
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Riddell
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Prescott
McIlorum
We would need another prop and half back but thats what I can see us lining up like'"
Why should I renew my season ticket will be a question asked to IL at the next fans forum then?
We need a new six/seven. Sam Tomkins can play both but is better at seven. Either way we need a world class leader in the halves who is experienced and can lead us around the field.
We need one maybe two tough prop forwards who will bully opposition in the middle of the pack. Experience is also vital. There is plenty of quality available at the moment. We should be looking to sign someone up now.
Leuluai must be moved to nine and due to the Riddell signing unless we want to try and loan McIlorum for a couple of years till Riddell's contract runs out we have to get rid I am afraid because at this stage he simply is not good enough.
We should pay compensation to Fielden/try to offload him/hopefully he retires - anything. He must leave the club as soon as possible. He is not good enough for the wage he is on and is hampering our recruitment at the moment as well as the performances on the field.
We need a new coach NOW. Brian Noble's contract most likely will not be renewed at the end of the season. If it is I wont renew my season ticket. Too much money to waste on a side poorly coached going nowhere. Our only wins have come against two poor sides in Celtic Crusaders and Salford. A lucky pass from Randall at Harlequins and a completely shocking Bradford Bulls side. We have lost to Castleford at home (who finished bottom last season) Wakefield (who had out half a side) and Huddersfield. We lost to the team that finished one above the bottom Hull FC away. Got smacked against Leeds. Could not take our chances against Saints and got thumped against Catalans. Not good enough.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Why should I renew my season ticket will be a question asked to IL at the next fans forum then?
We need a new six/seven. Sam Tomkins can play both but is better at seven. Either way we need a world class leader in the halves who is experienced and can lead us around the field.
We need one maybe two tough prop forwards who will bully opposition in the middle of the pack. Experience is also vital. There is plenty of quality available at the moment. We should be looking to sign someone up now.
Leuluai must be moved to nine and due to the Riddell signing unless we want to try and loan McIlorum for a couple of years till Riddell's contract runs out we have to get rid I am afraid because at this stage he simply is not good enough.
We should pay compensation to Fielden/try to offload him/hopefully he retires - anything. He must leave the club as soon as possible. He is not good enough for the wage he is on and is hampering our recruitment at the moment as well as the performances on the field.
We need a new coach NOW. Brian Noble's contract most likely will not be renewed at the end of the season. If it is I wont renew my season ticket. Too much money to waste on a side poorly coached going nowhere. Our only wins have come against two poor sides in Celtic Crusaders and Salford. A lucky pass from Randall at Harlequins and a completely shocking Bradford Bulls side. We have lost to Castleford at home (who finished bottom last season) Wakefield (who had out half a side) and Huddersfield. We lost to the team that finished one above the bottom Hull FC away. Got smacked against Leeds. Could not take our chances against Saints and got thumped against Catalans. Not good enough.'"
Because Noble will not be coach!!!!
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| Quote ="jonh"Because Noble will not be coach!!!!'"
If he is given a new contract I would have to really consider whether or not to renew my season ticket.
Hopefully he isn't and we seek a new direction from an NRL coach as sadly the British coaches in this country are average at best.
We don't want Adrian Lam to take over either.
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| Quote ="jonh"Because Noble will not be coach!!!!'"
I really hope your right, would love to see an Aussie coach take over (because Edwards is a no go at the moment ) Brian Smith or somebody like that would get us sorted I reckon. 2 props, world class half back, keep bringing youngsters through and hopefully we won't be too far wrong
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| Tomkins and Myler as soon as next season? No thanks.
In 3 or 4 seasons time, undoubtedly yes, however I feel having these two as our starting half backs will just put too much pressure on them while they are too young.
If we were to run with these two then we'd need to significanlty improve the props.
I feel the back rowers would be okay; Hock, Hansen, J Tomkins and O'Loughlin are all strong enough in defence to be able to protect the halves and all can run some excellent lines and would benefit massively from some better quality distribution from the halves (and Tommy at dummy half). I also like to see O'Loughlin link up with Tomkins and Myler as he has begun to this season with Sam.
However, if we ran with the same props as this season, we'd be battered and such young and inexperienced halves would be completely ineffective.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"Tomkins and Myler as soon as next season? No thanks.
In 3 or 4 seasons time, undoubtedly yes, however I feel having these two as our starting half backs will just put too much pressure on them while they are too young.'"
Three or four seasons down the line will be too late IMO. It is now or never.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Three or four seasons down the line will be too late IMO. It is now or never.'"
As it says in the now edited post above, to run with Myler and Sam at 6 and 7 and fail to significantly inprove the pack would be suicide.
These two would need so much protection in the first season or two its unture.
That said, if we could improve prop forwards then yeh, without doubt go for it.
For me, it all hinges on whether we are able to offload Fielden to another club. If we can't, then I fail to see how we could have Sam and Myler protected when our experienced, supposedly mian prop is getting brushed aside as easily as he is.
Equally we couldn't just not play Fielden, or else we'd have to get another youngster in there, and it wouldn't be fair to say to Davies for example he has to be the 'big man' in his first season.
If we can ship Fielden out and get a sh*thouse from Aus, then great.
FWIW, although I have been really impressed with COley's improvement this season, I am taking it for granted that we will replace him already.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"If the asking price is genuinely £200 K plus for an 18-year-old who's only just come onto the scene, then you're right - IL quite rightly would not be prepared to pay it. Nor would any chairman in the competition.
However, I'd expect it to be considerably less than that.'"
I honestly could see it being that high.
They won't sell a guy who's their best player at 18 and is a future England international without question for peanuts.
They may be willing to take players plus cash.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I honestly could see it being that high.
They won't sell a guy who's their best player at 18 and is a future England international without question for peanuts.
They may be willing to take players plus cash.'"
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| Quote ="MattyB"150K plus Goulding. Job done!'"
Hansen's a Salford lad.
120k plus Hansen and Goulding for Myler which would allow us to promote Mossop and Farrell.
Job done
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Amos Roberts
Martin Gleeson
George Carmont
Sean Ainscough
Sam Tomkins
Richie Myler
Luke Bailey
Mark Riddell
Andy Lynch
Gareth Hock
Sean O'loughlin
Joel Tomkins
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Feka Paleaasina
Prescott/O'carroll
Harrison Hansen/Lee Mossop
Thomas Leuluai
Coach: Steve Folkes
Young player of the year - Sam Tomkins
Man Of Steel - Gareth Hock
Challenge cup winners - Wigan
League Leaders shield - Wigan
Grand Final - Wigan
Coach of the year - Wigan
BBC team of the year - Wigan
Reserve championship winners - Wigan
Academy Championship winners - Wigan
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| Quote ="cadoo"Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
Martin Gleeson
George Carmont
Sean Ainscough
Sam Tomkins
Richie Myler
Luke Bailey
Mark Riddell
Andy Lynch
Gareth Hock
Sean O'loughlin
Joel Tomkins
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Feka Paleaasina
Prescott/O'carroll
Harrison Hansen/Lee Mossop
Thomas Leuluai
Coach: Steve Folkes'"
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| Quote ="cadoo"Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
Martin Gleeson
George Carmont
Sean Ainscough
Sam Tomkins
Richie Myler
Luke Bailey
Mark Riddell
Andy Lynch
Gareth Hock
Sean O'loughlin
Joel Tomkins
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Feka Paleaasina
Prescott/O'carroll
Harrison Hansen/Lee Mossop
Thomas Leuluai
Coach: Steve Folkes
Young player of the year - Sam Tomkins
Man Of Steel - Gareth Hock
Challenge cup winners - Wigan
League Leaders shield - Wigan
Grand Final - Wigan
Coach of the year - Wigan
BBC team of the year - Wigan
Reserve championship winners - Wigan
Academy Championship winners - Wigan
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Roberts
Gleeson
Carmont
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Fielden
Riddell
New prop
Hock
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Feka
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| Quote ="cadoo"Three or four seasons down the line will be too late IMO. It is now or never.'"
Agreed, I'd like to see us go for Myler for 2010. If we don't, someone else will
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Have we been dreaming again
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Just woke up.
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| NEW FB
ROBERTS GLEESON CARMONT AINSCOUGH
TOMKINS ORFORD
FERRIOL TOMMY BAILEY/ROSS
HOCK LOCKERS
TOMKINS
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FEKA PRESCOTT RIDDELL FARRELL/MOSSOP/FLANNY
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