Who told anyone anything?

but yet the original post is slagging fans off about how they support the club........ i neither boo'ed nor sang happy happy songs but I can seriously understand the frustration after spending thousands of pounds watching this team, fans want a bit of pride in the shirt - they dont even have that

Anyway, I've taken over from Dave Whelan as the no. 1 Wigan fan, and am therefore above a category 1 fan. Lock the thread.

People are being called seals for clapping, they are told we shouldn't sing a particular song. Most people on here are frustrated by what we see on the pitch but it doesn't mean we have to stop supporting our club. I hate it when fans sing you're not fit to wear the shirt as it can appear to be directed at [uall[/u the players. What have the likes of Ainscough and Tompkins done to deserve that. There has got to be something more going on that we don't know about. How can a team put out a performance like they did against saints on Thursday then go and perform so badly on Monday.

but by the same token, what have the 'underachievers' done to earn the praise of the crowd?

Only by fans as frustrated as you. They are just trying to find differnet ways to express it. The team always have the fans underlying support, but after some of the dross we have seen this season, they cant expect auto applause just because they play for Wigan.

Tomkins & Ainscough aren't part of the long term problem, but they are in the team currently and will have to deal with fan response. A quick scan over a message board like this would show them what fans think, but when they are on the field, to expect them to be excluded from anything is unrealistic.

You're house (except Tomkins, Ainscough, Gleeson - he's only just joined, Hock - when he doesn't have the brain farts, Feka - providing he gets fitter, Joel Tomkins - although I expected him to kick on more this season), and we're sick of it

You're house (except Tomkins, Ainscough, Gleeson - he's only just joined, Hock - when he doesn't have the brain farts, Feka - providing he gets fitter, Joel Tomkins - although I expected him to kick on more this season), and we're sick of it

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Really doesn't have a ring to it, does it?

i could see some tard singing that to the tune of a foozeball song!

your not fit to wear the shirt certainly riled the players in august last year!

as far as i see it the fans pay the wages by buying the shirts, season tickets so they have the right to vent their anger at e

Whats a memeber? i want to be one.

Sorry AJ but don't agree there. If your boss slagged you off with a group and you didn't deserve it Im sure you wouldn't be too happy. Ainscough is only 19 and is going a great job. Not sure whether or not they would be reading the boards - next time I see him I will ask. My mum always told me if you can't say something good then don't say anything at all and I try (not always successful) to do this. Don't see the point of shouting obscenities hardly good motivation is it

It motivated them after Huddersfield last season.

you are thumper and I claim my five pounds!!!!

Actually I like to think more like Bambi so you can have £2.50

deal

Nowhere near as annoying as a woman sat near us who had the most cringeworthy voices, "that's disgusting that is" about 10 thousand times when Paddy got a shot on him. "Their fans are making them turn against the ref" blah blah blah, just coming up with complete and utter drivel.

The best one was though, "If that wasn't a high tackle then I don't know what was" clearly it wasn't a high tackle as he would of given it! Some of our fans are utterly clueless when watching a game, sometimes makes me wonder do they actually know the rules. Anyone who was seated on the side towards the screen will know who I'm on about!

Well I don't know about anyone else but when at games my vocal support is kind of automatic. By which I mean if the team are defending the line or close to the oppositions line for example, I automatically shout encouragement. If a player makes a howler of a mistake I will usually curse or groan - it's an automatic response.

If I see players being slow to a scrum as has been mentioned then I will yell at them to get a move on - again it's an automatic response.

I have never yet been able to condition myself to cheer a poor performance and I also do not go to games intending to give team team a hard time either.

I simply react to what I see and if what I see is generally of a poor standard then you won't get cheering or clapping from me. But even when playing poorly if they get a sniff of try or are defending the line it's back to shouting my support. And so on.

Isn't reacting to what you see or has gone on normal!!??

If that means the players end up with more people groaning at them then surely it's just because they have played badly?

Dave

Firstly, my boss loves me.

But again, its a totally different situation, if I knew I was doing my job, but as a group/team overall we weren't hitting targets/performing etc then its only right the team get a combined bollocking. That being said, if I knew I was doing my job, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Given Ainscough is top try scorer in SL, im sure he is aware he isn't the main problem we currently have.



Absolutely spot on. Dave, stop making posts I agree with

i bet you was probably clapping along after watching wigan get beat of saints, wasnt calling for nobles head on thursday anyone

Damn! I have to agree with him too. Grates a bit TBH.

at least your guys had recent success, you want to try being a Wire fan watching pap for 20 years

Doesn't it just

Well I was clapping on Monday, and hooting with laughter too

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Though, if I'd paid hundreds of pounds to go over to France and had seen my team look as unfit and just downright disinterested as your lot did at times during the match I'd have been ranting big style.

For me, players should get support when they deserve it, if they are trying their damndest but it isn't coming off then thats's fine I support them, but to cheer them on when they look less interested than the hot dog seller is pretty idiotic.

I'd rather lick p1hss off a nettle thanks .

The original poster mentioned dislike at the negative singing. Its interesting how quickly this turned into an attack at people who sing how great we are and clap meaninglessly.... surely there is a whole spectrum inbetween?? You might not like what you are seeing, and many people sit head in hands or arms folded or whatever, no need to clap and cheer. But I still get the point as to why there is a need to sing such negative songs at them either - we still have a role to play in motivating them?

Just an observation that this started as a "why sing negative songs/abuse" and turned into a "why happy clap".... whereas the majority probably think neither are the most appropriate.....there is a vast range of options in the middle?!