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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"Wakefield'"
OK, was told wrong then, not that it made a difference he had a good game, well done to him for having the balls to make some big calls (right or wrong at times)
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| Quote ="summit saint"It was a text book double movement. The rules are clear on this, once the ball carrying arm touches the ground the player is tackled as long as an opposition player is touching him. If the tackled player then slides over the line without moving the ball carrying arm then the tackle is deemed complete at the point the slide stops. If a player lifts the ball carrying arm and advances the ball this is classed as a double movement. Defo no try.
Apart from the forward pass Ainscough's try was well taken by a young lad, i thought he was in touch but watching it on telly at home he did very well to lift his leg.
Well done tonight, its nice to have the competative derby back. Cant believe sky have demoted us to Thursday night and moved the hull derby to good friday.'"
Bigger game simple as
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Bigger game simple as
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| Quote ="DaveO"He didn't make any glaring howlers but I though his policing of the PTB was poor. Saints were not square all night and he never pinged them once.
It's one thing letting the game flow but at some point you have to apply the rules.
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It always is. O'loughlin was never square all night either, with Wigan generally having their hand on the ball to slow Saints down.
As for no glaring howlers, Tomkins knock-on, which resulted in ansother six tackles, was a shocker.
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| Thaler missed a blatant knock-on from Phelps early from a kick return, plus it was a forward pass to Ainscough for his second try.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I can barely remember Ben Thaler through out the game, which is the way it should be.
He controlled a high speed, aggressive derby very, very well but let the game flow.'"
Could not agree more. Without a doubt he is the best ref in superleague at the moment.
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| Quote ="jonh"Once he raised his elbow it was always going to be a no try. It s the thing that infuriates me most about Hock, he is so close to being a top player, but simply lacks a bit of a brain and does not seem to learn from his errors.'"
I agree - you lift your elbow you're showing you couldn't have made the line without doing it. You don't lift your elbow you probably slide over anyway.
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| Phelps Knock-on near the corner flag from a Saints' kick wasn't a knock on.
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| Quote ="summit saint"It was a text book double movement. The rules are clear on this, once the ball carrying arm touches the ground the player is tackled as long as an opposition player is touching him. If the tackled player then slides over the line without moving the ball carrying arm then the tackle is deemed complete at the point the slide stops. If a player lifts the ball carrying arm and advances the ball this is classed as a double movement. Defo no try.
Apart from the forward pass Ainscough's try was well taken by a young lad, i thought he was in touch but watching it on telly at home he did very well to lift his leg.
Well done tonight, its nice to have the competative derby back. Cant believe sky have demoted us to Thursday night and moved the hull derby to good friday.'"
Think you will find that was D.W. as the latics are at home sometime this weeked
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| Quote ="Salty"Phelps Knock-on near the corner flag from a Saints' kick wasn't a knock on.'"
Yes it was, watch the replay
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| Puletua's high shot on tommy was classed as chest - hmm.
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| Thaler and Bentham are pretty neck and neck for me. Both control the game superbly, without getting flustered or making impulsive desicions, and the games are far better as a result. Refereeing performnaces now are far superior to any of the past. Thumbs up for full time refs?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Thaler and Bentham are pretty neck and neck for me. Both control the game superbly, without getting flustered or making impulsive desicions, and the games are far better as a result. Refereeing performnaces now are far superior to any of the past. Thumbs up for full time refs?'"
You should have been at the Huddersfield game Bentham had a shocker but i suppose we all have off days
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I can barely remember Ben Thaler through out the game, which is the way it should be.
He controlled a high speed, aggressive derby very, very well but let the game flow.'"
Who called the ref an idiot?
Who called the idiot a ref?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Honestly?
I thought Wigan got nothign out of the officials tonight.
Every 50:50 went against us.
I honestly don't think the ref had a good game.
Btw imo Hock scored a try.'"
What game were you watching????
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| Thought we got quite a lot from the ref, did anyone else think Phelps was tackled in the air for the last try? The Hock no try was correct.
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| Hock definitely no try.
Phelps' knock on looked to go backwards, but difficult to tell at pitch level from some distance away, so no argument with that one.
I thought the pass to Ainscough for his second was fine - the ball went forward relative to the ground, but went backwards relative to the player, as he was running quickly at the time. Watch the replay from the wide angle and you can clearly see that the passer is in front of the ball as it moves left.
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| Thaler made plenty of poor decisions. He seems to ref the game to how he wants the scoreline to be and not what's going on.
Don't think he had a good game at all for either side.
You just have to look at the Graham incident.
'Play on, play on James, oh I mean play the ball'.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"No problems with Thaler tonight. I think he's the best of the lot at the moment.'"
I think you're right that he's the best, but even he makes a lot of mistakes. Fortunately they evened themselves out last night but there's nothing worse than close matches being decided by poor refereeing. I think the RL should take a look at the two ref option, the game is just too fast for one man to police. They could also do with finding some decent TJs.
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"Thaler made plenty of poor decisions. He seems to ref the game to how he wants the scoreline to be and not what's going on.
Don't think he had a good game at all for either side.
You just have to look at the Graham incident.
'Play on, play on James, oh I mean play the ball'.
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Agree that the Graham penalty was bad - you can't shout 'play on' & then 'play t'ball' & expect a player in the midst of a tackle to be able to react. However, the rest of your post is a bit harsh I think. Yes, there were errors, there always will be, but at least it wasn't the 30+ penalties, with errors, that Ganson was producing last season.
Refereeing was in danger of ruining the game this time last year - it's generally improved hugely lately.
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| at the end of the day we ve got no decent refs in superleague its swings an round abouts all the time you win some decisions an you lose some i think there some better refs in NL1
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| The ref had a good game last night.
There was almost 20 mins gone before he gave the first pen.
Hock's disallowed "try" was the first pen not given by Thaler but the VR.
Yes he made mistakes and glaring ones but overall he had an excellent game.
Compare that to Bentham's nightmare v Huddersfield and he looked very good.
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| Ganson had a good game in France last week, and today at Hull.
I thought Thaler was generous to Wigan last night TBH.
It seems the refs are letting a lot more go at the moment, such as not touching the ball with the foot at the PTB, markers not square, etc. It has certainly made for a quicker game, with a lot less penalties. You can hear them telling players to be square, or 'two feet' or when the ball's out at a scrum. Having said that, I don't want the players to start taking the p1$$ and ruining the game either.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"Ganson had a good game in France last week, and today at Hull.
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