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| Phuzzy Phuzzy Phuzzy you must get excited over the littlest things if you thought that was good enjoyable rugby. Our coach just doesn't have a plan A never mind a plan B we are easy to defend against and our defence is poor very poor and i think that the points for and against shows this.
You must be a very lonely man if thats what you are as well because after reading some of your other replies all you seem to do is try and pick other peoples comments to bits on spelling punctuation etc etc are you a misanthrope by any chance
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"The defense is at sea mate, against Saints or Leeds we would leak 40+ points as we have done last season under the same structures and it still hasnt been sorted..whos fault..BN,,IL..Defense not only wins you matches it also wins you finals as me and you know..sort the defense and the rest will follow.'"
I agree. But you can only play who's in front of you and tonight we defended well against a well organised and resolute team. We saw a massive improvement on previous weeks but will need to improve further for the big games. I just wish that the Wigan fans could enjoy themselves from time to time. I'll explain it in a nutshell. I currently have a friend over from Aus staying with me. He watched the game tonight and saw the things that need improving just like the rest of us. But his words on seeing the whinging on here...and I quote... "F*ck me, I can't believe people are actually whinging after a good game of footy like that. Don't they know how to enjoy themselves in Wigan?"
I'm rarely embarrassed to be a Wigan fan. Coming on here tonight was one of the rare occassions.
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| at last other ppl talking sence alls i ve had of this phuzzy is stupid comments all night either its brian noble or a latics fan trying to be funny
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I agree. But you can only play who's in front of you and tonight we defended well against a well organised and resolute team. We saw a massive improvement on previous weeks but will need to improve further for the big games. I just wish that the Wigan fans could enjoy themselves from time to time. I'll explain it in a nutshell. I currently have a friend over from Aus staying with me. He watched the game tonight and saw the things that need improving just like the rest of us. But his words on seeing the whinging on here...and I quote... "F*ck me, I can't believe people are actually whinging after a good game of footy like that. Don't they know how to enjoy themselves in Wigan?"
I'm rarely embarrassed to be a Wigan fan. Coming on here tonight was one of the rare occassions.'"
See now we know your lying
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| Quote ="wiggywigwig"Phuzzy Phuzzy Phuzzy you must get excited over the littlest things if you thought that was good enjoyable rugby. Our coach just doesn't have a plan A never mind a plan B we are easy to defend against and our defence is poor very poor and i think that the points for and against shows this.
You must be a very lonely man if thats what you are as well because after reading some of your other replies all you seem to do is try and pick other peoples comments to bits on spelling punctuation etc etc are you a misanthrope by any chance'"
No mate, I have a very good life, but thanks for your concern.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I'm rarely embarrassed to be a Wigan fan. Coming on here tonight was one of the rare occassions.'"
Maybe you should have come to the game then, because apart from a few occasions, we all enjoyed it. It was a win, ST was my MOM and we've got home happy.
[size=75And before anyone questions it, I live closer to London than Wigan.[/size
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I agree. But you can only play who's in front of you and tonight we defended well against a well organised and resolute team. We saw a massive improvement on previous weeks but will need to improve further for the big games. I just wish that the Wigan fans could enjoy themselves from time to time. I'll explain it in a nutshell. I currently have a friend over from Aus staying with me. He watched the game tonight and saw the things that need improving just like the rest of us. But his words on seeing the whinging on here...and I quote... "F*ck me, I can't believe people are actually whinging after a good game of footy like that. Don't they know how to enjoy themselves in Wigan?"
I'm rarely embarrassed to be a Wigan fan. Coming on here tonight was one of the rare occassions.'"
It was a good game but only because both teams were woeful in defense and that allowed numerous attacking plays, and a lot were wasted. But i agree it is an improvement on the last couple of weeks but it is still well below the mark we should expect from Wigan.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"Maybe you should have come to the game then, because apart from a few occasions, we all enjoyed it. It was a win, ST was my MOM and we've got home happy.
[size=75And before anyone questions it, I live closer to London than Wigan.[/size'"
Normally would have mate. Couldn't tonight but I'm sure Id have enjoyed it too! Looked like a great time off what we saw on the screen...or should that be, off what some of us saw!
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"It was a good game but only because both teams were woeful in defense and that allowed numerous attacking plays, and a lot were wasted. But i agree it is an improvement on the last couple of weeks but it is still well below the mark we should expect from Wigan.'"
I still don't see your point. Defensive lapses are what allows attacking play. If you can only see things from a negative point of view how can you possibly enjoy your rugby? Anyway I suppose that's none of my business in the end.
BTW I'm not disagreeing with your points, just your seeming inability to enjoy a win. But that's your perogative in the end.
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| nobby needs to realise players like tompkins and ainscough have saved his bacon....if he drops either now hes and idiot and needs calling into question.
Ainscough and Tompkins MUST start next week. Lets start gettin a few more young lads in as well. Would like to see thornley and mossop get a chance.
Nobby has finally done what the fans want and drop the waste of spaces for younger lads with more talent, and has started to finaly pick a team that the fans are happy with. Get riddell, hock, and coley droped, finish the job off properly now and then we might have a team that looks like we could win somethin.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I still don't see your point. Defensive lapses are what allows attacking play. If you can only see things from a negative point of view how can you possibly enjoy your rugby? Anyway I suppose that's none of my business in the end.
BTW I'm not disagreeing with your points, just your seeming inability to enjoy a win. But that's your perogative in the end.'"
Well if you dont see my point about the defense i guess you never will..But on a personal note to a fellow Wigan fan enjoy your vice tonight after a long awaited win as i am currently enjoying mine.. well done the young lads.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"nobby needs to realise players like tompkins and ainscough have saved his bacon....if he drops either now hes and idiot and needs calling into question.
Ainscough and Tompkins MUST start next week. Lets start gettin a few more young lads in as well. Would like to see thornley and mossop get a chance.
Nobby has finally done what the fans want and drop the waste of spaces for younger lads with more talent, and has started to finaly pick a team that the fans are happy with. Get riddell, hock, and coley droped, finish the job off properly now and then we might have a team that looks like we could win somethin.'"
You are a bloody idiot
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"nobby needs to realise players like tompkins and ainscough have saved his bacon....if he drops either now hes and idiot and needs calling into question.
Ainscough and Tompkins MUST start next week. Lets start gettin a few more young lads in as well. Would like to see thornley and mossop get a chance.
Nobby has finally done what the fans want and drop the waste of spaces for younger lads with more talent, and has started to finaly pick a team that the fans are happy with. Get riddell, hock, and coley droped, finish the job off properly now and then we might have a team that looks like we could win somethin.'"
I thought Riddell showed good signings of improvement tonight. Controlled things better with more runs from dummy half. Still needs to get around more in defence and improve his fitness though.
I thought Hock was very good today as well, carried it a lot and very strongly, played 65+ mins solid defence and NO brain farts. Considering he is one of our few game breakers, international, a wiganer etc etc I think it would be ridiculous to drop him
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I still don't see your point. Defensive lapses are what allows attacking play. If you can only see things from a negative point of view how can you possibly enjoy your rugby? Anyway I suppose that's none of my business in the end.
BTW I'm not disagreeing with your points, just your seeming inability to enjoy a win. But that's your perogative in the end.'"
I am completely on your wavelength in terms of being disillusioned at Wigan fans' apparent inability to take pleasure in a win.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"I thought Riddell showed good signings of improvement tonight. Controlled things better with more runs from dummy half. Still needs to get around more in defence and improve his fitness though.
I thought Hock was very good today as well, carried it a lot and very strongly, played 65+ mins solid defence and NO brain farts. Considering he is one of our few game breakers, international, a wiganer etc etc I think it would be ridiculous to drop him'"
Agreed, thought Riddell was miles better tonight and Hock was impressive.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I am completely on your wavelength in terms of being disillusioned at Wigan fans' apparent inability to take pleasure in a win.'"
Exactly with you on that it appears that some on here would rather have lost that game than won it.
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"Well if you dont see my point about the defense i guess you never will..But on a personal note to a fellow Wigan fan enjoy your vice tonight after a long awaited win as i am currently enjoying mine.. well done the young lads.'"
No, I said I do see your points and agree with some of them. That wasn't the point of my original post. However if you're enjoying the win I take it back and good on ya! Hope there's many more to enjoy!
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Agreed, thought Riddell was miles better tonight and Hock was impressive.'"
Aye, depressing isn't it?!? Brought into so much more sharp focus when an Aussie from Melbourne is able to open a few 'tinnies' and enjoy our win more than way too many on here....
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Aye, depressing isn't it?!? Brought into so much more sharp focus when an Aussie from Melbourne is able to open a few 'tinnies' and enjoy our win more than way too many on here....
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Every true Wigan fan will have enjoyed the win tonight and I doubt anyone didn't
It's just people recognise improvement is needed
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Every true Wigan fan will have enjoyed the win tonight and I doubt anyone didn't
It's just people recognise improvement is needed'"
I think you need to read some of the earlier posts mate. If you can point out the enjoyment I'll be happy to take it back.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"I thought Riddell showed good signings of improvement tonight. Controlled things better with more runs from dummy half. Still needs to get around more in defence and improve his fitness though.
I thought Hock was very good today as well, carried it a lot and very strongly, played 65+ mins solid defence and NO brain farts. Considering he is one of our few game breakers, international, a wiganer etc etc I think it would be ridiculous to drop him'"
Riddell was too slow and we could have more ground if he had distributed quicker
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I think you need to read some of the earlier posts mate. If you can point out the enjoyment I'll be happy to take it back.'"
You not read any of the posts praising Ainscough and Tomkins?
Or the one praising Lockers (eventhough it started off as an anti-Lockers thread)
There is probably more but they are just off the top of my head
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"You not read any of the posts praising Ainscough and Tomkins?
Or the one praising Lockers (eventhough it started off as an anti-Lockers thread)
There is probably more but they are just off the top of my head'"
Yes mate. Those weren't the ones I was replying to.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"No, I said I do see your points and agree with some of them. That wasn't the point of my original post. However if you're enjoying the win I take it back and good on ya! Hope there's many more to enjoy!'"
I enjoy every win although i cant help being over critical, and im enjoying this win as well, and i am also hoping there are many more to enjoy mate as im sure you are.
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"I enjoy every win although i cant help being over critical, and im enjoying this win as well, and i am also hoping there are many more to enjoy mate as im sure you are.'"
We'll agree to agree then!
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