Whats up with Mathers, another sending off, and the season's only just started

1 Mathers
2 Williams
3 Ainscough
4 Kevin Brown
5 Hodgson
6 M Johns
7 Moran
8 Bibey
9 Millard
10 Wilkes
11 Bailey
12 Jonkers
13 O'Loughlin

OK

People who think ainscough should be in really really need to see the 2002 and 2003 season reviews. He was absolutely nowhere near as bad as people suggested and scored some fantastic long rangers. he was simply not as good as some of the excellent players before him. i.e renouf and connolly

you have never seen richie mathers play in a wigan shirt. you cant have

I agree. He didn't do too bad following Renouf. Best chant ever as well. Tra la la la la.

Riddell.

Haha, I think it's time to let you all know that I'm really Micky Higham.

I presume some of you guessed? lol

2 minutes is all I need.

i'll go with that

Jesus wept......you lot are really in a dark place at the moment.
Do they sell these things in the JJB shop?

Matty Johns was a good player. He game was killed off by Farrell who tried to play both loose forward and stand off at the same time. Johns had one of the most accurate passing games you will ever see but was forced down the right hand channel all the time by Faz.

I remember asking Andrew Johns how he and Matty practised to get there passes so accurate and he said they used to stand either side of the railway banking in Aus as kids waiting for the trains to go past and passing the ball to each other over the top.

Dont forget this player must be worst ever to win 2 winner cup medals

I remember when he signed for Wigan and everyone thought we'd got Andrew Johns

That was part of the problem. He was never as good as Andrew in all round terms so was judged by Andrew's standards similar to Faz with O'Loughlin and Kevin and and Tony Iro but had he been allowed to play the entire width of the field he would of been awesome getting the long balls out to the centres. Im pretty sure Renouf was here the same year yet instead of a Johns pass he got a Farrell hospital pass most of the time

39 Games, 21 tries not too bad. I am sure we have had worst players playing centre for us over the years.

To be fair Ainscough was a decent winger with deceptive speed and tough. It was when he played at centre he was poor.

Oooohh, wouldn't mind one of those beauties !!!

Seu Seu. The fella was a great in his time but with us he could hardly raise a limp.

That was the problem, that limp.

I think this forum is getting more illiterater every day.

1- Luisi Sione (After dark)
2- Desi Williams
3- Martin Aspinwall (Never a centre in memory of George Mann)
4- David Vaeliki
5- Jon Whittle
6- Phil Jones
7- Dennis Moran
8- Ricky Bibey
9- Mark Reber
10- Brady Malam
11- Oliver Wilkes
12- Tim Jonkers
13-Dave Allen

I think he only ever had a trial with us, don't think he ever signed or played.

I only started watching in 2001 but I'll have a go since then, didn't include Davies as I can only remember one game: his crap grand final appearance.

1. David Vaealiki
2. Desi Williams
3. Kevin Brown
4. Sean Gleeson
5. David Hodgson
6. James Coyle
7. Dennis Moran
8. Andy Coley
9. Shane Millard
10. Ricky Bibey
11. Tim Jonkers
12. Oliver Wilkes
13. Danny Tickle

14. Bob Beswick
15. Wayne McDonald
16. Harvey Howard
17. David Allen

Phil Jones was a decent player and fully deserved selection ahead of Matty Johns.

I remember when Johns was out injured for Castleford away and Jones replaced him. Jones ended up scoring a hat trick and Man of the match before being dropped the week after by Endacott.

Luckily for Jones, he was offered a VERY good contract to play for Orrell RU.

I remember that now, couldnt think of any crap stand offs though so just picked him because he didnt play much.