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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Mathers would make a great cheerleader.
Some of the comments on here show how far this club has fallen.
Once Roberts and Pryce are fully fit, Noble will dump Mathers'"
Slate me if you want, but I think Pryce will take another year to get anywhere near the level of performance he showed at Bradford, and I predict he will become the new scapegoat a la Moran, Vailiki, Mathers.
From what I've seen so far he looks slow, ponderous and uninterested. He is never a centre and is miles behind Goulding in terms of being able to pass to a winger. I honestly believe people should stop building up the lad quite so soon.
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| Quote ="dave2311"Slate me if you want, but I think Pryce will take another year to get anywhere near the level of performance he showed at Bradford, and I predict he will become the new scapegoat a la Moran, Vailiki, Mathers.
From what I've seen so far he looks slow, ponderous and uninterested. He is never a centre and is miles behind Goulding in terms of being able to pass to a winger. I honestly believe people should stop building up the lad quite so soon.'"
I agree i expect very little from Pryce in 09, maybe a handfull of first team games at the most.
For me it is more likely to be a choice between Mathers and Phelps once Roberts is fit.
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| Quote ="jonh"I agree i expect very little from Pryce in 09, maybe a handfull of first team games at the most.
For me it is more likely to be a choice between Mathers and Phelps once Roberts is fit.'"
Lets see what 3 months in the 21's does for him.
The team should be picked on Form.
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| I wouldnt pay him in washers. Stick him in the reserves. Im fed up of his cowardly acts. He offers nowt
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| I love Mathers' enthusiasm when playing bu he does lack in certain areas but im all for giving him a chance for first 5 rounds.
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| Mathers deserves a chance IMO. As for his lack of tries, the whole team lacks tries! We have the most boring flat, narrow attack possible and finished with a minus points difference if you remember.
Maybe part of the reason for Mathers' lack of tries is down to our lack of attacking set plays. Just a thought...
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| Sod it, stick me in at fullback - I'm well enthusiastic you know.
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| We should try and sell him and buy a pair of shorts with the money
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| I say lets all give the lad a chance. Let the team gel and get some confidence.
We all saw how poor Wellens was in the world cup, but he's shirt is guaranteed.
Anyone who get to go to Australia to play first team rugby must have some class in them.
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"I say lets all give the lad a chance. Let the team gel and get some confidence.
We all saw how poor Wellens was in the world cup, but he's shirt is guaranteed.
Anyone who get to go to Australia to play first team rugby must have some class in them.'" The guys had over a season to get some confidence how long do you want to give him?
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| Quote ="king warrior"The guys had over a season to get some confidence how long do you want to give him?'"
Well he's not really been in a good strong team has. Things might be different this year.
I thought he was getting better when we started playing well at the end of the season and the play offs.
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"Well he's not really been in a good strong team has. Things might be different this year.
I thought he was getting better when we started playing well at the end of the season and the play offs.'"
His best game was in the playoffs against Catalan. More of that please.
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"His best game was in the playoffs against Catalan. More of that please.'"
Personally i think hes gonna be a star for the club. If we all get behind him.
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| Amos Roberts became the best fullback at Wigan when he put pen to paper and IMO, should be starting there on Sunday.
Regardless of how nice Mathers is, how long he was out injured, how poor a defensive line he has been working behind etc, we need the best man available for the job. It's not personal, it is professional sport and there is no room for sentimentality.
If we signed Roy Asotasi and Brent Kite tomorrow then how many games would Fielden start? It doesn't mean he's done anything wrong but you want the best players in your squad in the place where they can have the best impact on your team.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Im sick of hearing 'he deserves a chance' what more chance could we give him than 22 games last season? All this oh he will improve just like pat richards did bull is annoyong aswell - Pat Richards was a class player before that nightmare season, and showed improvement towards the end of it aswell, Mathers has shown none whatso ever and hasnt shone against the likes of Leigh and Warrington Academy. I also remember him playing in the reserves last season also and he was his usual self. He cant tackle, is afraid of catching high balls, cant get past the first defender and scores 1 try in a whole season? Radlinski now, would do a better job.'"
he Didnt play 22 games last year
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"he Didnt play 22 games last year'"
[urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/SquadMember.asp?teamid=1&id=267[/url
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"[urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/SquadMember.asp?teamid=1&id=267[/url
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Yeah, that's including Challenge Cup too. The Super League site will not show them on their stats page.
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| roberts can be no where near match fit he hasnt played a game in how many months, but yet everyone wants mathers whos played 3 pre season games to miss out
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"roberts can be no where near match fit he hasnt played a game in how many months, but yet everyone wants mathers whos played 3 pre season games to miss out'"
so what should we save roberts for then? how is he gonna get match fit if we dont play him
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| Mathers will go at FB this season. He didn't look that bad at Leigh.
What was comical was Tim Smith catching the kick off and looking for Fielden. Now that was funny!
Neither player seemed to know where the other one was or where they were supposed to be. That doesn't make them bad players. That's what trial matches are for!
If that happen v Wakey then it won't be funny!
As for Mathers, he went ok for me but so many were just ok. Can't take the conditions out of it either. It was just so cold!
Tommy was the stand out player and was rightfully named MOM.
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| As I have said all along Mathers will get his chance...first 10 games or so...
I saw an improvement in him towards the end of last season and I think he deserves a chance. Wigan have invested alot of time and little money into Mathers if we gave up on him now it would be wasted.
Ok he did not score many tries last year but that was not all his fault our attack as a team was woeful at times.
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| I have never been a fan. For me he is another to add to the lists of "Why on earth did Wigan sign him".
I hope I am wrong.
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| His defensive play is aweful, looks scared to me. Normally if a fullback is poor defensively, you can excuse it a little if they are good in attack, but 2 tries last year shows how much he offers in attack. He doesn't chime into the line very well and harly ever beats the 1st man.
Shouldnt be in our team as he is a liability, wish we had a few more who were as vocal as him on the pitch, but this isnt enough of an asset to warrant him being picked week in week out.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Mathers will go at FB this season. He didn't look that bad at Leigh.
What was comical was Tim Smith catching the kick off and looking for Fielden. Now that was funny!
Neither player seemed to know where the other one was or where they were supposed to be. That doesn't make them bad players. That's what trial matches are for!
If that happen v Wakey then it won't be funny!
As for Mathers, he went ok for me but so many were just ok. Can't take the conditions out of it either. It was just so cold!
Tommy was the stand out player and was rightfully named MOM.'"
Please tell me you're joking!
There were thousands of young players producing some outstanding rugby on Sunday.
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| Quote ="Nogga"His defensive play is aweful, looks scared to me. Normally if a fullback is poor defensively, you can excuse it a little if they are good in attack, but 2 tries last year shows how much he offers in attack. He doesn't chime into the line very well and harly ever beats the 1st man.
Shouldnt be in our team as he is a liability, wish we had a few more who were as vocal as him on the pitch, but this isnt enough of an asset to warrant him being picked week in week out.'"
it takes much longer than your giving him to get back from the injuries he's had!! he was probably about 18 months away from been fully back from his first injury when he did his other knee at the titans, so i think next season or the season after is when mathers will be looking at his very best again.
truley judge him then! as a fan i can understand why that may be unrealistic, but it also shows how desperate or how badley the club was been run at the time when you signed him
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