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| Quote ="those were the days"it as got hi in the title i wont give the name out it mite jepodise the deal.'"
Sure it's not Hy? If so they're not Japanese
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| Quote ="WigansForeignLegion"Sure it's not Hy? If so they're not Japanese
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I was just about to say he was getting his Japanese and Korean mixed up.
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| Quote ="WigansForeignLegion"Sure it's not Hy? If so they're not Japanese
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Your rite i was mis informed there based in seoul.
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| Quote ="those were the days"it as got hi in the title i wont give the name out it mite jepodise the deal.'"
hiundai?
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| Quote ="those were the days"Your rite i was mis informed there based in seoul.'"
Your Seoul, my Seoul or Our Seouls?
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| The main trouble was when whealan was in charge he had the market for sports shops, so expanded to the soccer dome and health clubs, these two areas made the most revenue (£35 a month for the gym, without doing much) and he subsequently took his eye off the thing that got him there ie the shops,
Then along came his old mate Mike Ashley , who took over the kit yourself out for a tenner market and JD Sports who took over the "Sports Fashion" side of the market, leaving JJB's core market reduced as they sold neither of these things as well as the other 2.
Whealan then sold up for high, and now plans to buy the health clubs back (which is the only area of the business that makes money) for a relative pittance.
People call him, but you got to respect his business ability, he done well for himself, but then again so did Fagan!
Still its tragic for the lads and lasses who work for JJB.
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| Could have a collection and put a bid in to sponsor the stadium,
call it the - dave whelan is a cock stadium
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"The main trouble was when whealan was in charge he had the market for sports shops, so expanded to the soccer dome and health clubs, these two areas made the most revenue (£35 a month for the gym, without doing much) and he subsequently took his eye off the thing that got him there ie the shops,
Then along came his old mate Mike Ashley , who took over the kit yourself out for a tenner market and JD Sports who took over the "Sports Fashion" side of the market, leaving JJB's core market reduced as they sold neither of these things as well as the other 2.
Whealan then sold up for high, and now plans to buy the health clubs back (which is the only area of the business that makes money) for a relative pittance.
People call him, but you got to respect his business ability, he done well for himself, but then again so did Fagan!
Still its tragic for the lads and lasses who work for JJB.'"
his problem was that he was expanding quicker than he could keep up running the businesses he was taking over.
didnt he sell pooles pies shortly after buying?
and that TJ Hughes venture was a disaster.....a shop nobody even went into
as you say, others came along and undercut him and he didnt notice.
he had too many outlets in the same towns.
now hes got out and hoarded his millions, while his poorly paid workers are now facing the dole.
jjb in liverpool is right next to the liverpool superstore.......guess where liverpool fans but their stuff?
would be same here if we had a superstore, but at least we have warriors world for now.
this mike ashley you mention??? if hes who i think he is im betting hes laughing all the way to the bank shortly.
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| Quote ="those were the days"i heard a rumour that the sponser of the stadium would be a well known japanese car company.'"
I heard a Japanese manufacturing company specialising in 'Big Wheels' like the London Eye.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"I think of more concern is the poor blighters employed there'"
I'm sure that those with a brian or tried hard enough at school will be okay.
As for the rest, well, the world hates ditch-diggers too.
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| Quote ="Abe Frohman"I'm sure that those with a brian or tried hard enough at school will be okay.
As for the rest, well, the world hates ditch-diggers too.'"
It has no impact upon me personally.
However, many of those employed are decent people. They often worked elsewhere and as large scale companies closed in the Borough, JJB offered at least employment. In the current economic downturn I would imagine finding employment is not as easy as you suggest.
The bottom line is that Dave Whelan is sitting pretty. He cashed in. It is the poor blighters who need their jobs who are the ones that suffer.
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| Re; JJB I believe their growth as a company was more luck than design. They had always stocked football shirts and in the late 80's/early 90's IIRC, wearing football shirts became fashionable. Fashion change benefitted JJB. Unfortunately, they failed to plan / adapt for when that fashion trend ended.
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| Quote ="Ancient & Loyal"I'm glad our contract with JJB Sports has come to an end before this has come to light. '"
We never had a contract with them if you are referring to shirt sponsorship. DW just stuck the name on the shirt because he owned both Wigan RL and JJB.
Quote At the same time, it's not nice for those people who are employed by the company and the fact that it is a Wigan based business which is in the news for struggling. I certainly hope it doesn't crumble to its foundations.'"
Exactly. Whatever we may think of DW and the way he used to run the company it employs a lot of local people.
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| Quote ="DaveO"....... it employs a lot of local people.'"
Like, a [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/games/wallpaper/images/league640.jpglocal shop for local people[/url, you mean?
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| Quote ="Abe Frohman"I'm sure that those with a brian or tried hard enough at school will be okay.
As for the rest, well, the world hates ditch-diggers too.'"
And which Half do you come into Abe???
Tried hard or those with a BRIAN?????
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| I know we don't like him but all this blame on Whelan for this is daft.
He is a businessman and a very good one at that.
He got out of JJB at the right time and did bloody well out of it.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"I know we don't like him but all this blame on Whelan for this is daft.
He is a businessman and a very good one at that.
He got out of JJB at the right time and did bloody well out of it.
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Your very right he did get out at the correct time. On the other side tho they are reportedly in £60m pounds worth of debt. Whelan sold up just over a year ago and I’d be very surprised if a large proportion of that debt wasn't already with the company when he sold it. The current owners are in part suffering for Whelan’s miss management. (Same could be said for our club as well)
To simply say Whelan sold at the right time and the blame can’t be pointed at him is very nieve imo.
More fool the people who bought it off him tho.
Although I don’t really want it to go under as I know a few people who work there, I would love nothing more if it did go under for IL to buy the land and build a nice new stadium on part of ‘Whelan’s empire’. There would be some ironic satisfaction in that you must admit.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"And which Half do you come into Abe???
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Brian is the name of his bumchum that he keeps locked under the stairs in a box ala the gimp from pulp fiction
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| i thought we was changing the stadium name anyway for the start of this season hence why it says "Fortress GB" on the back of the new season ticket cards i thought that was something to do with it i thought the GB was the initials for the new name
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| JJB have made some terrible policy decisions over the last few years. They are victims of their own mismanagement, sadly though, the executives will probably leave with payoffs prior to administration and the workers will be left in the dole queue.
JD & SportsDirect will probably pick off a few stores each and save some jobs, however that wont help the head office/warehouse workers etc.
The bluechip companies in this country have really been exposed in the last few months.
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| A company with £60m debt and an asset worth an estimated £100m (Health Clubs) is unlikely to go bust.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"A company with £60m debt and an asset worth an estimated £100m (Health Clubs) is unlikely to go bust.'"
I thought they had started to sell off the health clubs?
I know they sold off the soccerdomes to powerleague, but thought the health clubs had started to be broken up as well.
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| Quote ="AJ"I thought they had started to sell off the health clubs?
I know they sold off the soccerdomes to powerleague, but thought the health clubs had started to be broken up as well.'"
No they still own the Health Clubs in their entirety. A memo was sent out on Friday to around 10 interested parties who have shown an interest in buying them. They could be debt-free if they can complete a sale, not many high street retailers can say that at the moment.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"No they still own the Health Clubs in their entirety. A memo was sent out on Friday to around 10 interested parties who have shown an interest in buying them. They could be debt-free if they can complete a sale, not many high street retailers can say that at the moment.'"
Fair enough. It would be interesting to see though if any company was willing to buy the clubs outright, but that way, or selling them off in bits wouldn't matter to JJB I dont suppose.
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