you say you worry about signing players over 25 but in the next breath say signing newton would be fantastic!! isnt he the same age as carmont or abit older?

Completely agree. If we have signed a player that nobody raves about then he will be under no pressure at Wigan to be anything other than a solid defender.

Anything else is a bonus, anything less is 'another Vaealiki' so no change then.

I know little about him to make a judgement...we shall see

I'd be surprised is that were the case. Goulding isn't ready for a full season in the centres and needs to carry on coming off the bench and Carmont is a mere 5 foot 10 and 14 and a bit stone.

Without Bailey in the centres we will be very light weight so for that reason I'd expect Bailey to get another centres shirt and only go into the 2nd row on a part time basis when Goulding comes on to give Hock or Hansen a rest.



Now that really would be a pointless signing given we have two hookers under contract the club already. If there is a third signing it needs to be a prop.

Dave

Thats true but we all know newton is a good player word coming out of Aus is that george is worse than DV !

Not to put a dampner on your mate's opinion, but two Aussie lads I know rate him quite highly. The very worst we can say about Carmont is that opinion is divided. Let's wait and see.

As for Newton - no thanks. Too expensive and, as previously said, we already have two hookers. Another prop? - I doubt it. In Feka, Fielden, Coley, Prescott and O'Carroll, we already have five (unless Feka goes down of course, in which case we'll have his salary to spend on another prop).

If things stay as they are with Feka, it would make sense to me to sign another three-quarter. I'm not for changing the team around needlessly, but if Goulding's not quite ready for a full season, then why not sign another centre and push Bailey into the second-row?

I'd be happy with an experinced utility type player that could maybe cover hooker and the halfback positions.

That would give the squad a good balance. Maybe Dunneman on a one year deal could be a goer.

i agree we will have to wait and see cos i dont know that much about him. still IMO dont think O'Carroll is big enought and never will be but dont get me wrong has got the heart for the job just not the size.

Would be interesting to see bailey move into second row his natural position like we did with pat move from centre to wing and shown us his true form was amazing till cashton decided to do one then we had to move him to FB. should be an interesting season anyway cant wait to see what noble does.

he cant be that bad if there own fans started a petition for the club to re-sign him. all you can do is give the lad a chance before writing him off

Not wrote him of mate i am only saying what people are telling me i am more than prepared to give him a chance i know nothing about him could be a world beater for all i know !

it happens EVERY time a player leaves the NRL to join superleague.

apparently there were some people over there who were saying that a certain mr Trent Barret was past his best when he came over here.

lets give the guy a chance i say

my brother just come back from Aus said they hate Trent now over there he was walking round with his Wigan top on with Barret on the back said he got lads of stick of them.

If this fella is good enough for Nobby, he's good enough for me.

He will be an even better signing if we have got him for little cash so leaving room for one more signing.

Utility back would be the best bet

Which, to me, puts a big question-mark against the reliability of the 'contacts' your brother made while he was over there.

Who cares what Aussies thinks. there just ed because theres nothing they can do to stop SL clubs buying there stars and it really gets to them.

What you going on about ?? it was nothing to do with contacts he made over there it was the general public who he was talking to when he was in pubs and stuff with his wigan top on talking about trent barret and wigan.

Maybe you didn't give enough information first time round.

It sounded, from what you were saying, that the same group of people who said Carmont was crap were also slagging Barrett off (and if they were, who'd listen to their opinion on anything?).

Either way, my original point stands. Other Aussie fans disagree that Carmont is crap. We need to wait and see.

Sorry if i dodnt make myself clear have to rush my posts sometimes incase the boss sneaks up and looks what i am doing.

I agree mate i am well prepared to give the bloke a chance deosnt seem the biggest of blokes but niether was lyon. Bring on the new season i say !

Very good news imo.

Hopefully he can cross the line and prove what a good player he is in the White and Cherry (:winkicon_smile.gif.

Maybe one more signing to come?

carmont is an average player,honest and hard working,but nothing exceptional.also he is 29yrs old and without a club in the nrl.i wish the lad well hope he plays well for us.i wonder what peoples reaction would have been if maurice had made such a signing?

At the worst he will be DV but much less expensive so i don't see how we can lose with this one personally. If we are looking at another player i hope we are looking to someone who can cover the halfbacks and maybe hooker. Don't think we should be looking at a prop as we have 5 already.

I can't understand this signing at all. He's (quite a lot) worse than Vaealiki. Fair enough if you couldn't afford any better, but I honestly think giving one of the youngsters a chance would be a better option.

Carmont is the kind of player I'd expect someone like Wakefield to sign, not Wigan. The petition to keep him was a pis take.

We will be running with a youngster [ias well[/i as Carmont, that's how thin the backline is. And as we're recruiting with a lower budget than Wakey this year the simile is correct. For a short term signing it stacks up fine given the circumstances. As my old English teacher used to say - 'You can only s[ih[/iit with the a[ir[/ise you've got.'

Anybody that comes out with a statement like that is obviously trolling

. If he is cheap, which by all accounts he is, and if he is solid and offers a bit more pace than Vaeleki (which he surely must

), than he is a good enough stop gap signing.

The truth is though that very few of the people that are slating him have seen him play enough to make a qualified statement as to how good he is. I would rather wait and see.

Which youngster would that be? The only young centre capable of playing at SL level is Goulding and he is not IMO ready for a full season in the starting 13.

But even if he were ready, what happens if he or Bailey gets injured?

We would have no reserve centres.

With this signing in a normal 17 I'd expect Bailey and Carmont to start in the centres with Goulding coming on later allowing Bailey to switch to second row to give Hansen or Hock a rest.

Also it means if either Hansen or Hock are injured we can move Bailey to 2nd row and play a Goulding/Carmont centre pairing and of course if either Bailey or Carmont are injured, then in comes Goulding into the starting 13.

So signing another experienced centre opens up a lot of flexabi9lity in the back line and 2nd row. It therefore makes perfect sense to me.

The real question is, is Carmont good enough? Time will tell but in a strange way signing Carmont is better for Goulding because Goulding will get more game time than he would if he were trying to get a game ahead of Matt King!

Dave