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| Quote ="Conroy"Action WAS taken after the flare'"
I've heard Rogues is taking a fire extinguisher to all games.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I've heard Rogues is taking a fire extinguisher to all games.
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Exactly. What more do people want??
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| Quote ="Conroy"Exactly. What more do people want??'"
I've got a rocket in my pocket.
It's just finding someone to light the touchpaper.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"To be honest I'm more surprised he didn't use his loaded pistol saying
No he has no shame!'"
You mean, better a loaded pistol than an empty cannon?
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| Dear god
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| He doesn't mention that it tends to go off half cocked
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!"
this is not a dig, setting up a club within a club has it's problems especially in light of recent changes in the law, what happens if a member of your ultra/ brigantes commits a crime whilst at a match? the law can arrest other members who just stand by and watch. hence the question who decides what's acceptable in your group and what's not?::'"
its not a club as far as i know....its a set of guys raising money for flags (and charity), and standing together at games to sing etc.
tbh if i was one of these guys, who had put their hands in their pockets on many occasions, and put in a lot of effert in their own time, i would be reading a majority of posts in this thread and thinking...."why the heck did i bother"
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"its not a club as far as i know....its a set of guys raising money for flags (and charity), and standing together at games to sing etc.
tbh if i was one of these guys, who had put their hands in their pockets on many occasions, and put in a lot of effert in their own time, i would be reading a majority of posts in this thread and thinking...."why the heck did i bother"'"
Maybe, or maybe they may actually read and understand people's concerns and realise they are nothing to do with raising money for flags, raising money for charity or for that matter standing together at games.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Action WAS taken after the flare'"
I assume the person has been banned from future matches? or is there a sliding scale set up by the ultra board of directors?
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| it sounds like i'm being flipant, but let me reasure you i'm not. one poster on here offered to identify the graffitti artist's via his facebook page, what's next march on his house with pitchforks and burning torches. who decides how far things go, what's wrong or right, would you have closed ranks if the person in question was a true brigante/ ultra rather than some pesky football fan?
can you see what i'm trying to get at?
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| The matter was dealt with. Does it matter how?
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| Quote ="Conroy"The matter was dealt with. Does it matter how?'"
Yes, it does
People on this thread have said that the group are being policed? By whom and in what way? What happens if one of the group has afew too many sherberts and does something they shouldnt. will they be dealt with in the same way as the moron with the paint can?
This is the problem with self policing, it very often leads to one rule for us and one rule for everyone else
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!"I assume the person has been banned from future matches? or is there a sliding scale set up by the ultra board of directors?'"
Been banned by who ?, the club (that's their decision), or, the 'brigantes' (who have no power to ban anyone from the DW), the matter has been dealt with, the 'culprit' has been admonished, if you need any more information please attend the next meeting (time and date with be announced on here), thank you.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Been banned by who ?, the club (that's their decision), or, the 'brigantes' (who have no power to ban anyone from the DW), the matter has been dealt with, the 'culprit' has been admonished, if you need any more information please attend the next meeting (time and date with be announced on here), thank you.'"
it appears your group facilitated the banning of one person by naming and shaming him to the club, did you do the same with the flare culprit by notifying the RFL or hull kr (was it there? can't remember specifics)
what do you mean by admonished?
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!"it appears your group facilitated the banning of one person by naming and shaming him to the club, did you do the same with the flare culprit by notifying the RFL or hull kr (was it there? can't remember specifics)
what do you mean by admonished?'"
admonish
· v. reprimand firmly. Ø earnestly urge or warn.
– DERIVATIVES admonishment n. admonition n. admonitor n. admonitory adj.
– ORIGIN ME amonest ‘urge, exhort’, from OFr. amonester, based on L. admonere ‘urge by warning’.
If this matter was dealt with by the club, perhaps you should ask them...
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!"it appears your group facilitated the banning of one person by naming and shaming him to the club, did you do the same with the flare culprit by notifying the RFL or hull kr (was it there? can't remember specifics)
what do you mean by admonished?'"
Yes
If your that interested you (And anyone else) is more than welcome to our next meeting. Maybe you can pick up that Ultras Badge you've been PMing me about for the last 12 months?
(PS - My 1 and only post on this thread and it will be my last.)
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!"it appears your group facilitated the banning of one person by naming and shaming him to the club, did you do the same with the[u flare culprit [/uby notifying the RFL or hull kr (was it there? can't remember specifics)
what do you mean by admonished?'"
Firstly, it wasn't a flare, and secondly, neither the RFL or Hull KR wanted to know his/her identity.
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| is this still going!?? Gonna end up like the Christ Joynt involuntary tackle thread!
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| Quote ="Robbo"is this still going!?? Gonna end up like the Christ Joynt involuntary tackle thread!
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Exactly, been dealt with, we're happy, the clubs happy, lets move on and concentrate on the coming season.
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| Quote ="FIOS"I know this is completely unrelated but does anyone know if that guy is ok who was passed out on the floor just after the bridge after the game?'" thanks for asking yes he's OK.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Firstly, it wasn't a flare, and secondly, neither the RFL or Hull KR wanted to know his/her identity.'"
it seems that most people are being evasive or obtuse, the point i was trying to make was that nobody informed or reported the name of the culprit at the hullkr match but chose to following the spray paint incident. double standards????
i don't know. just putting the question out there.
maybe i will attend one of your meetings, pick up my ultra badge for my collection and have a reasoned debate about rugby league in general, i work nights so will have to wait until my nights off match up with a meeting.
there appears to be a lot of defensive posting on here to what i feel are valid questions. i'm not critisizing the ultra's or what they try and do for their club... fair play to your enthusiasm. i just wondered about the real issues arround self policing and who has a say in the decision making process. flipant posts including posting a definition of a word rather than outlining what actual actions were taking just makes it look like you've got something to hide imo, or it hasn't been thought through and knee jerk reactions to each incident as and when it happens will be the order of the day.
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| Quote ="SLIMply winning!" flipant posts including posting a definition of a word rather than outlining what actual actions were taking just makes it look like you've got something to hide imo, or it hasn't been thought through and knee jerk reactions to each incident as and when it happens will be the order of the day.'"
I was not being flippant, and you have taken my post out of context. I stated that i am not a member of the group, and that action had supposedly been taken by the club, the club being WRLFC not the Ultras/brigantes, and that you should ask the club. Instead you have just kept banging on about this matter. The group cannot police anything, but seem to have helped the appropriate authorities when a very small problem arose. They did this instead of just being "Indignant of Wigan" on a website.
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