Ryan Hoffman will leave. We accepted this when we signed him. We have to be realistic and accept he will leave. If Joel moves to the centres and Hoffman leaves it does put us light in the back row. Lockers will play at loose forward leaving just Harrison Hansen, Liam Farrell and Chris Tuson. Very short of numbers and very inexperienced. Against bigger, more experienced packs they'll get crushed - i.e Warrington. Of course Hock coming back does add some more weight to the pack, but I wouldn't want to put all my eggs in one basket - especially with Gareth Hock.

At halfback and hookers we are short depending on how we lineup. If Sam plays at fullback then it leaves us short. Mike McIlorum is not effective enough as an 80 minute hooker. I think he will be spelled with Thomas Leuluai. This just leaves Brett Finch. Joe Mellor and Sam Powell have only played a handful of Super League games between them. Too inexperienced. We could really do with Amos Roberts firing at fullback so Sam can revert back to halfback with Brett Finch.

I agree with your last paragraph. A top draw centre signing would be fantastic. Keep Joel in the back row as we are most likely going to lose Ryan Hoffman. Keep the pack nice and strong. I can't think of any ideal English centre that we can look for. I think we will have to move overseas. Justin Hodges or Matt Cooper springs to mind.

I'm not going to give up all hope in Hoffman staying. After all he did sign a deal with an option for a second year, and he does appear in interviews to be really enjoying his time over here. Were totally in agreement over signing a new centre. If we could get a Hodges or a Cooper to replace Carmont then brilliant, but it would be tough with the NRL's ever increasing salary cap though. Charnley has to get other centre spot for next year for me, he was superb again last night. All that would allow Joel to remain in the backrow, possibly to compensate for the loss of Hoffman( but I hope not).

In regards to the halves. Personally I'd like to see Sam and finch at 6 and 7 with Tommy and McIlorum sharing 9. Leuluai was excellent last night out of dummyhalf. Hopefully Madge noticed that to and will stick him there permanently. As for FB although I think it's unlikely to happen I'd like to see Russell there. Every time I've managed to get to the under 20's he's looked good, very pacy and elusive.

hoffman 3yrs at melbourne.....maybe..just maybe damiel anderson at the helm at the DW next year...

I'd move Joel back to the 2nd row as that'shis best position and one where he could have the world at his feet.

Add to that there are plenty of centre's out there for next season.

Ivan Henjak to coach Wigan next year

Discount Lockyer coming to Wigan then!

Available and has received fair praise from Bennett.

Top quality NRL centre with Charnley given the other.
A scrum half to allow Tommy/Micky to play 9
A back rower to replace Hoffman if he goes

We dont need anymore than that, as long as the structures and staff Madge has put in place remain, we will be okay.

Full back to replace Sam (Sam back to halfback role) hopefully Matt Bowen
Centre to replace Gleeson, Richard Whiting or Kris Welham maybe?
Prop to replace Coley, big Samoan or Tongan??
Hock to replace O'Carroll

I'd take Ratchford over those two centre options.

I'd also try a transfer fee for Chris Bridge as Wire have a good few centres on their books.

Bridge, Atkins, Monaghan, King & the young blonde kid also.

Played reasonably well yesterday Ratchford. Certainly defensively he was good. I'd sign him, he offers good versatility.

whiting,welham,bridge

It's the young blonde kid I would pay the transfer fee for and not Chris Bridge.

Ratchford would offer some depth at halfback and centre. I think he can play fullback too. A realistic target too as he is coming off contract at the end of this season. Yawnion are rumoured to be sniffing around him.

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Quote ="cadoo"It's the young blonde kid I would pay the transfer fee for and not Chris Bridge. Ratchford would offer some depth at halfback and centre. I think he can play fullback too. A realistic target too as he is coming off contract at the end of this season. Yawnion are rumoured to be sniffing around him. [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/07/stefan-ratchford-salford[/url'" First saw Rhys Evans at Leigh for England Academy versus Australia, scored a cracker: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgqIXTkKnY (Think I'm okay to put this link on as it's not SKY footage).

Quote ="cadoo"It's the young blonde kid I would pay the transfer fee for and not Chris Bridge. Ratchford would offer some depth at halfback and centre. I think he can play fullback too. A realistic target too as he is coming off contract at the end of this season. Yawnion are rumoured to be sniffing around him. [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/07/stefan-ratchford-salford[/url'" First saw Rhys Evans at Leigh for England Academy versus Australia, scored a cracker: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgqIXTkKnY (Think I'm okay to put this link on as it's not SKY footage).

What are people's thoughts on Ray Cashmere at Salford? Huge forward, plenty of experience, has played in Super League for a few years and has been a success. Makes plenty of metres, carries, works hard defensively and according to the stats is well disciplined too. Rumours last year that Saints were looking at him. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 If Gareth Hock moves to the back row in replacement of Hoffman we then have room to strengthen at prop to replace Andy Coley.

What are people's thoughts on Ray Cashmere at Salford? Huge forward, plenty of experience, has played in Super League for a few years and has been a success. Makes plenty of metres, carries, works hard defensively and according to the stats is well disciplined too. Rumours last year that Saints were looking at him. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 If Gareth Hock moves to the back row in replacement of Hoffman we then have room to strengthen at prop to replace Andy Coley.

Quote ="MattyB"First saw Rhys Evans at Leigh for England Academy versus Australia, scored a cracker: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgqIXTkKnY (Think I'm okay to put this link on as it's not SKY footage).'" An excellent coup for Wire and a player with undoubted potential. Sadly in terms of our chances of signing him, he's been at Wire since he as 15 and is contracted till 2015. Very good for England though.

Quote ="MattyB"First saw Rhys Evans at Leigh for England Academy versus Australia, scored a cracker: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgqIXTkKnY (Think I'm okay to put this link on as it's not SKY footage).'" An excellent coup for Wire and a player with undoubted potential. Sadly in terms of our chances of signing him, he's been at Wire since he as 15 and is contracted till 2015. Very good for England though.

He's okay but the way some people are going on about him I feel they are trying to pull the wool over my eyes.

Quote ="cadoo"What are people's thoughts on Ray Cashmere at Salford? Huge forward, plenty of experience, has played in Super League for a few years and has been a success. Makes plenty of metres, carries, works hard defensively and according to the stats is well disciplined too. Rumours last year that Saints were looking at him. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 If Gareth Hock moves to the back row in replacement of Hoffman we then have room to strengthen at prop to replace Andy Coley.'" Damn good player Cashmere. However he is getting on a bit. Adam Sidlow at Salford always impresses me. Only 23 and British. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Quote ="cadoo"What are people's thoughts on Ray Cashmere at Salford? Huge forward, plenty of experience, has played in Super League for a few years and has been a success. Makes plenty of metres, carries, works hard defensively and according to the stats is well disciplined too. Rumours last year that Saints were looking at him. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 If Gareth Hock moves to the back row in replacement of Hoffman we then have room to strengthen at prop to replace Andy Coley.'" Damn good player Cashmere. However he is getting on a bit. Adam Sidlow at Salford always impresses me. Only 23 and British. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Damn good player Cashmere. However he is getting on a bit. Adam Sidlow at Salford always impresses me. Only 23 and British. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011'" No, no, no, no & no. Not as good as the lads we've got. Liam Watts?

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Damn good player Cashmere. However he is getting on a bit. Adam Sidlow at Salford always impresses me. Only 23 and British. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011'" No, no, no, no & no. Not as good as the lads we've got. Liam Watts?

George Burgess.

Liam watts would be a good signing.

Really like the looks of Paul Johnson from wakefield.

Good call on Watts. However a quick google search suggests he's tied down till the end of 2012.

Can't say I've noticed Johnson myself. But others certainly rave about him. Could be a possibility with Wakey likely to bow out at the end of this year.

Just had a look at his states Johnson..hes second behind Graham as top meter maker prop this season.

Quote ="wigan_knight"Just had a look at his states Johnson..hes second behind Graham as top meter maker prop this season.'" You've inspired me to take a look at his stats and to be fair they are very impressive. A hell of a lot of carries and tackles made by the lad, a real hard worker by the looks of it. A former Saints academy player as well, something I didn't know. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Quote ="wigan_knight"Just had a look at his states Johnson..hes second behind Graham as top meter maker prop this season.'" You've inspired me to take a look at his stats and to be fair they are very impressive. A hell of a lot of carries and tackles made by the lad, a real hard worker by the looks of it. A former Saints academy player as well, something I didn't know. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"You've inspired me to take a look at his stats and to be fair they are very impressive. A hell of a lot of carries and tackles made by the lad, a real hard worker by the looks of it. A former Saints academy player as well, something I didn't know. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011'" He'll deffo be a SL player with or without wakefield next season..So far i have liked what i have seen from the lad..Carry on and i would certainly consider him.

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"You've inspired me to take a look at his stats and to be fair they are very impressive. A hell of a lot of carries and tackles made by the lad, a real hard worker by the looks of it. A former Saints academy player as well, something I didn't know. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011'" He'll deffo be a SL player with or without wakefield next season..So far i have liked what i have seen from the lad..Carry on and i would certainly consider him.

That's one hell of a work rate for such a young and inexperienced player playing in a very poor side.

I wonder why Saints got rid? I'd definitely keep an eye on how he goes this season.