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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Haaaaaaaaaaaaa....
Smokey returns after a three month disappearing act..Do one muppet....
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Wouldnt want to send this board into a collective apoplexy of hypocrisy again.
Nice to see the class shown by some Wigan fans regarding Danny Mags hasnt improved though.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Wouldnt want to send this board into a collective apoplexy of hypocrisy again.
Nice to see the class shown by some Wigan fans regarding Danny Mags hasnt improved though.'"
Nobody cares about you anymore..your history. We are the Champs so get over it gimpo.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"To be fair mate I only really read that one post and it was as if he was saying only Wigan were allowed to selectively select periods in history to celebrate. I have no interest in the petty arguments and name calling that many seem to have descended too. I just think our recent success should not be ignored as we still have the vast majority of players who we know can win things, so as of now we should not be written off. However, yes I think it's very clear to see you were the best team last season and as of now are favorites and rightly so. But it's a long season and a lot can change. I just hope all fans realise we are all here to enjoy the sport and discuss matters in a contructive way, not to eneter slanging matches over frankly stupid topics.'"
Couldn't agree more, But I think it's some of the Leeds fans who are trying to start that Slanging match you should be trying to pick up on, not the Wigan fans who are plainly pointing out the Hypocricy of their posts?
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Nobody cares about you anymore..your history. We are the Champs so get over it gimpo.'" Classy.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Classy.'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Wouldnt want to send this board into a collective apoplexy of hypocrisy again.
Nice to see the class shown by some Wigan fans regarding Danny Mags hasnt improved though.'"
Should cheats be treated any differently..just because they injured them selfs ?
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Should cheats be treated any differently..just because they injured them selfs ?'"
yes, at the level of 'cheating' from Mcguire, certainly.
It would take someone of particular mean spirit to think the injury Mcguire suffered was anything other than a very unfortunate incident that has robbed the game of one of its most exciting stars for a fair period. And it would take a particularly cold heart not to see the immense personal hurt and worry an injury like that will have caused Mcguire and not to be sympathetic.
It would also take a particular type of stupidity to believe that Mcguire 'cheating' was any different to the numerous penalties Wigan gave away not only in that game but throughout the year.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"yes, at the level of 'cheating' from Mcguire, certainly.
It would take someone of particular mean spirit to think the injury Mcguire suffered was anything other than a very unfortunate incident that has robbed the game of one of its most exciting stars for a fair period. And it would take a particularly cold heart not to see the immense personal hurt and worry an injury like that will have caused Mcguire and not to be sympathetic.
It would also take a particular type of stupidity to believe that Mcguire 'cheating' was any different to the numerous penalties Wigan gave away not only in that game but throughout the year.'"
The Karma Police will be with you soon..
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"yes, at the level of 'cheating' from Mcguire, certainly.
It would take someone of particular mean spirit to think the injury Mcguire suffered was anything other than a very unfortunate incident that has robbed the game of one of its most exciting stars for a fair period. And it would take a particularly cold heart not to see the immense personal hurt and worry an injury like that will have caused Mcguire and not to be sympathetic.
It would also take a particular type of stupidity to believe that Mcguire 'cheating' was any different to the numerous penalties Wigan gave away not only in that game but throughout the year.'"
And i suppose Ablett was just missed timed
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"And i suppose Ablett was just missed timed
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And i suppose Andy Coley was just clumsy twice (on Delany and Fakir)
And i suppose it was just a co-incidence and conspiracy that Wigan gave away more technical penalties than any other team last year, and the most penalties in total, and its just unfortunate luck that Joel Tomkins gave away 12 more penalties than any other leeds player last year?
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"And i suppose Ablett was just missed timed
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Nah, Ablett's timing was spot on, mistimed would be most efforts by that smackhead who could be back for you this season.
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| This. Is. Brilliant.
How annoyed and bitter are they?
Beginnning to sound just like Wire fans!
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Nah, Ablett's timing was spot on,
mistimed would be most efforts by that smackhead who could be back for you this season.'"
why who's the smackhead
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| I'd just like to point out, a Leeds team containing; Ben Jones-Bishop, Lee Smith, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Ian Kirke, Paul McShane, Luke Burgess, Chris Clarkson, Jay Pitts, Kyle Amor & the rest being their so called 'fantastic youngsters' got absolutely hammered by Fev Yesterday, while ours beat Barrow
Go Figure.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"I'd just like to point out, a Leeds team containing; Ben Jones-Bishop, Lee Smith, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Ian Kirke, Paul McShane, Luke Burgess, Chris Clarkson, Jay Pitts, Kyle Amor & the rest being their so called 'fantastic youngsters' got absolutely hammered by Fev Yesterday, while ours beat Barrow
Go Figure.'"
Not really a surprise to me. Leeds Senior Academy has been poor for a few seasons now.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Fully agree. I think Leeds have done extremely well in recent years - considering their barren years from the 70's - 90's.
Wigan are definitely going in the right direction (to achieve further success), the fact that our U20's are beating Barrow away 32-6 at the moment is testament to that.'"
since when were the 70s barren for Leeds ,the 70s were your most barren period ever and most of the 60s
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| small town,small minds,vicous little old women supprters too.Its a hen pecked small town clubwith a massive chipsince they had to move out of their ground andall that went with it.They belive the salary cap was introduced to shaft them and their small town midget rule bender bookie
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"small town,small minds,vicous little old women supprters too.Its a hen pecked small town clubwith a massive chipsince they had to move out of their ground andall that went with it.They belive the salary cap was introduced to shaft them and their small town midget rule bender bookie'"
Well jog on back to your own forum! Thanks for stopping by and showing us what yorkshire folk are like!
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| Quote ="Bilko"Not really a surprise to me. Leeds Senior Academy has been poor for a few seasons now.'"
Bilko.
I've been asking them why that is four around three years. Occasionally I got a rational answer, but most seem to bury their heads in the sand and say that they are still producing quality youngsters.
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| Just read all 18 pages. Wow. Loving the banter. One poster summed it up perfectly with the “My dad’s bigger than your dad” arguments that have been going on regarding history.
My points :
1. I wish Danny McGuire a full recovery. I do think he cheated, but don’t wish him any harm. (We wouldn’t want the fact that he is out injured as an excuse if Leeds play poorly this season.). As some have said Wigan are far from whiter than white.
2. As for the play the ball / holding down issue. Are there any stats on this. Phil Clarke did briefly touch on this during a sky game last season, but it sure would make interesting reading. This whole lying on thing started following the Hull game, our 5th win out of six coming after the defeat at Bradford the week before. Richard Agar made the comment after his team IMO were far, far, more guilty of lying on in that match and trying to keep the score down as we were very impressive. (Hull scored a couple of very dubious late tries that didn’t matter but made the final scoreline flatter them.) I genuinely don’t believe that we are any better or worse than any other team in the league and this is purely a media driven myth started by Agar with everyone else jumping on the bandwagon. I am sure you will let me know if you think I am watching through my cherry and white specs, but this is my opinion.
3. Talk of Leeds’ demise is premature, but I don’t see them winning anything this year. They are still a good side, who like us, do play attractive rugby.
4. All the comments about history/honours, support, style of rugby are all coming from Leeds / Saints / Wire fans. You can almost smell the undercurrent of fear. Make no mistake, we are favourites for all trophies to be contested this season and rightly so, the more they post the more fuel it adds to the fire. I am pretty new to this board, and only started posting in September. Were we as bad as this when we were not winning anything?
It is hard not to gloat and as I say I love the banter. I get the general feeling that we are optimistic that we can dominate in the way Saints/Bradford/Leeds have in the Super League era, I’m not saying we will but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if we did, everything is in place. It would be great to come back on here in 3 or 4 years time having won a load of SLs/CCs, I wonder what arguments could then be made about our honours list?
It says it all really, that the only thing Wigan fans are worried about is how S$$t our kits are. (and I still like it).
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| Looks like reality is starting to hit some of the Whinos at last and all they can do is lash out at the champion team.
- The production line of youngsters is drying up
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- Brian McDermott being an example of taking the cheap option
- Jimmy Lowes
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"since when were the 70s barren for Leeds ,the 70s were your most barren period ever and most of the 60s'"
When you say '"most of the 60s", I guess you mean the 60s apart from 1960 (League Champions), 1962 (Lancashire League winners), 1965 (Challenge Cup winners) 1966 (Lancashire Cup winners), and 1968 (Floodlit Cup winners).
It seems you're pretty good at common abuse, but don't have much of a handle on facts.
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| Quote ="pondmonster"2. As for the play the ball / holding down issue. Are there any stats on this. Phil Clarke did briefly touch on this during a sky game last season, but it sure would make interesting reading. This whole lying on thing started following the Hull game, our 5th win out of six coming after the defeat at Bradford the week before. Richard Agar made the comment after his team IMO were far, far, more guilty of lying on in that match and trying to keep the score down as we were very impressive. (Hull scored a couple of very dubious late tries that didn’t matter but made the final scoreline flatter them.) I genuinely don’t believe that we are any better or worse than any other team in the league and this is purely a media driven myth started by Agar with everyone else jumping on the bandwagon. I am sure you will let me know if you think I am watching through my cherry and white specs, but this is my opinion.'"
Any RL fan who complains about Wigan 'lying on' is an idiot and should be summarily executed.
Wigan do not 'lie on'. What they actually do is hold the man up using 2-3 men. Before the ref shouts 'held', they then force him to the floor (more often than not on his back) and peel off 1 at a time, with the first man off sprinting back to the defensive line.
They control the tackle and the ruck. All of this gains no more than a few seconds advantage - but it's enough to ensure your defensive line is back, set and ready to come in and dominate again.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"I'd just like to point out, a Leeds team containing; Ben Jones-Bishop, Lee Smith, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Ian Kirke, Paul McShane, Luke Burgess, Chris Clarkson, Jay Pitts, Kyle Amor & the rest being their so called 'fantastic youngsters' got absolutely hammered by Fev Yesterday, while ours beat Barrow
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BPIT.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Looks like reality is starting to hit some of the Whinos at last and all they can do is lash out at the champion team.
- The production line of youngsters is drying up
- A squad where some of the key players aren't as effective as they once where, with some coming towards the end of their careers
- New ground improvements to be paid for and the money diverted away from the rugby operation to pay for it
- Brian McDermott being an example of taking the cheap option
- Jimmy Lowes'"
And you have decided this on what can only be one season?
what leeds you to believe that the poor form from some of Leeds senior players last year (and ill admit there was some) wasnt a blip?
Id certainly say we werent as bad last year as in 2006, yet looked what happened after that?
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