Hard to argue with RL not looking after its players well. After all, the SC has reduced player wages by over a third in real terms and for years no one cared, in fact many of the pro-SC nutters that used to post on here seemed to begrudge talented players earning what in elite sports terms are modest salaries.

Sam earns £300,000 a year at Wigan add on his media work and I think he's doing quite well from rugby league in this country. Although I do agree for the average player wages can be pitiful.

I agree with you he is playing NZW off now against Union if the rumors are true about him going to NZW for 2014. He is either stringing NZW along and making them think they have him or he is just playing Mr Nice Guy to the Union media. Whilst blatantly belittling League in the UK. A game which has made him rich.

I seriously doubt he would be allowed to miss so many games and do so many media events etc in union. Especially if its not releated to the club he is playing for our Country. Starting to lose all respect for him. He is now coming over worse the Suarez at least he was honest enough to say he wanted to go. And once he was made to stay he at least puts the club first and not himself. Also Suarez has more bite than Tomkins.

Tomorrow neet could be the last time we see him at the DW ever...pity really.

Only if he gets injured.

Why won't he play in the playoffs? Wigan will definitely have a home tie at some point.

not really. if we lose round 1, we would be away for the rest of the series (wouldnt we???).

No. If you lose in round 1 then you will play at home in round 2 against one of the winners from the 5th v 8th and 6th v 7th games.

No, if we lose in round 1 we will be at home in round 2.

Depending on where you finish. If you finish 3rd and loose your qualifying play off then you will be at home the following week v the winner of 6th v 7th. If you finish 4th and loose your qualifying play off you will be at home the following week v the winners of 5th v 8th.
Simples!

Not correct. You could lose from 3rd and end up playing the winner of 5th v 8th and you could also lose from 4th and end up playing the winner of 6th v 7th. Not as "Simples" as you suggest.



As the table stands now, if Wigan lost to Warrington in round 1 and Hulll beat Catalans and Hull KR beat Saints, then Wigan would play Hull KR in round 2, assuming Huddersfield beat Leeds.

In other words, the highest placed loser from round 1 plays the lowest placed winner. Also, the lowest placed loser from the top 4 in week 1 will play the highest placed winner from 5th - 8th.

Lets just say we've definitely got one more home game left after tomorrow. Either 2nd or 3rd round of the play-offs. When and opponents TBC

Haha sorry mate. Didn't mean to derail another one

"I have not made any plans for the next two years.”

Errm, apart from the contract you signed for Wigan, Sam?

No they don't.

You sure?

If 3rd and 4th lose and 5th and 6th win, 4th plays 5th.
If 1st and 2nd lose and 5th and 6th win, 2nd play 5th.
If 1st and 3rd lose and 5th and 6th win, 3rd plays 5th.
If 3rd and 4th lose and 5th and 7th win, 4th plays 5th.

And so on...

EDIT: Just realised my error. Very pedantic of you! Haha

Both top 4 winners in week 1 get week 2 off and have home games in week 3.

That contract is not worth the paper its printed on.

No, it's worth the transfer fee we will receive for him, if we sell him

And the transfer fee for us is useless unless we use it to buy another player. And there are very little true international class players in SL. Ryan Hall is the only back apart from Sam and Josh that are any good.

Nonsense.

Joel Monaghan
Stefan Ratchford
kallum Watkins
Jonny Lomax
Tom Lineham
Ben Crooks
Tom Briscoe

are all good players that would probably get into your side next year without Tomkins and Richards.

Reply to Yellow Giraffe:

I will give you Joel Monaghan he is international class player but none of the others are. They could be in 2-3 years but Crooks and Lineham and Lomax are not at the standard of Sam, Ryan Hall and Josh Charnley at this moment in time. Whilst what you view as international class differs greatly from mine.

Whilst they might get into the team without Pat and Sam. Its a really indictment on the quality in SL that an 30+ winger who has lost a yard of pace is still better than almost all the wingers in SL.

I didn't say they were international class. I said they were good players. You said there was only Hall, Charnley and Tomkins that were any good. If that's not what you meant then fair enough, but that is what you said.

And besides, with regards to your point on using transfer funds, all those players I mentioned would get in your side next season. So it isn't as though you couldn't spend the money on anyone at all.

Read my post again Yellow Giraffe i do say International Class. And that Ryan Hall, Josh and Sam that are good. That was meant to be they are the only international class backs in SL. Joel Monaghan is but the others are not good enough though given time and if they go to a very good side they could.

But none of those are in the caliber of the 3 i mentioned and thats not a very good position for SL or England to be in.

Sometimes you have to pay top dollar for "potential" take risks, Ben crooks on the same side as charley = cricket score. Throw some money at saints for lomax while we are at it , worked alright for gary Connolly