Briers?
Bridge?
Myler?

We were negative. Above the errors, brain farts and penalty give aways us keep going for 2 points when we had them on the back foot killed us.

Lessons were learnt at Saints though and that's all we can ask.

They always seem to be on the ball for the Wigan games, due to the amount of Wiganers associated with the team and club, the fact that they have traditionally been the 2nd best derby for us and the sheer dislike of Wigan from the likes of Cullen, Murphy and Briers over the years. Note their poor record in the games played immediately after facing Wigan. I'm surprised that a coach as educated as Smith hasn't killed this small club mentality off.

Point proven.

we dominated Wire in our last game except for where it counts. They hung in and took their chances. they are a good side, but they will have to improve if they are to take on us, Leeds, Saints and Cats come the end of the season, personally do not think they have what it takes.

Our results aren't down to fitness or old players waning form, it's the whole team playing suicide rugby, not respecting the ball and throwing impossible offloads at every given opportunity. Plus although we are not the most penalised team i'd say we are giving away the most on the 4th and 5th tackle.

Against Saints we had 2 completed sets in the first half, we have made more errors than any other team, 37 more than the next worse team [Widnes.

We are still a strong side but a side that for some reason is seriously disjointed and trying to play crazy rugby that just isn't working.

today it looked as if you was willing to go set for set with catalan and got beat for it. i think the problem is last season wire had such an energy about them and strong bond your team is finding it hard to replicate that and are trying to force it. last year really was wires year but blew it in the playoffs and some of your players seem to be struggling with it.

every time warrington play wigan they raise up 5 levels thats why they win and allways struggle directly afterwards.

You thought we raised up 5 levels this time around?

We've played at the same level all season probably bar Giants, in which we definitely out muscled them.

The level we are playing at is good enough to beat some teams and not others, if you go back to some of my posts on this board i said Wigan were the better team v Wire.

Like most Wigan fans i don't know how we won that, it papered very briefly over the cracks.

We are capable of a good performance and had glimmers, Saints 2nd half being one.
The trouble at the moment is simply we are beating ourselves and probably being guilty of being a little bit arrogant and thinking we'll be able to beat teams without putting the hard graft in.

i know i remember reading it and being surprised when you even said it on your own board

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but i still think you played one of your better games this season against us even if we was both not so good on the day.

shockingly i don't think it is arogance (never thought i would say this about warrington) i just think the team is trying to hard and its all being forced and its costing in mistakes. i think to many of your players are guilty of thinking about last season and are trying to put 50 on teams with out winning the battle.

also no doubt about it your older players arn't playing aswell this season, i really do think last season was wire year but it never happend.

Well i don't think neither of us will change our opinions on the Wigan/Wire game, and when Harrison and Big Dave are back in contention we can start dropping out of form forwards

Carvell has been gash this year, Wood a penalty and brainfart liability, Morley isn't his old self yet still better than the majority of props out there, Westwood can't do it all himself even if he tries to, Waterhouse is a bit flat, Hill isn't doing anything wrong and has been dependable but nothing flash, Grix is out of sorts, Cooper (see Hill).

M.Monaghan was our driving force last year but he had an op pre season and to be fair looks like he was rushed back, i think TS actually realised this and dropped him again. Thankfully, and almost unbelievably, Higham has been playing really well, in fact probably been our 2nd best player so far this season.
Dwyer has played small parts this season and looks like he can do a job.

so you dont class the current league leaders as a team to worry about then ?

I think they will win either the CC or the hub cap trophy this year.

No team in SL has been firing on all cylinders season consistently this season, with the possible exception of Huddersfield, and they may well be peaking too early.

I would not write Wire off, in fact for all we know, with their ageing side Smith could well be pacing them for the play-offs rather than have them going hell for leather all season like they did last year, only to fall short (again) at the business end of the season.

I'd love the wheels to come off at Wire (and for what it's worth I'd rather have had our start to the season than theirs, despite the defeat to the Wolfs) but it's far too early to be saying that...

the wheels coming off wire ?

give me a break

once our new signings have blended in and we have all our injured players back fully fit id back wire for the g/f against any s/l side

so dont lets get carried away by a few daft results! ,i can see a few red faces around some of these forums, once wire finally-click-

-as you can see i have amended my post

He made that post only two weeks after it happened, when it was still very relevant to league table positions. It's YOU who's chosen to resurrect an old thread.

Been 10 days since the last posting, and the last comments were complementary, whats your point?

Oh i get it...Just looking for a thread where we talk about you.... Lock it Mods...

Wire fans complain bitterly about accusations that they have the stupidest fans in RL.

The resurrection of this thread is yet more evidence to back up these allegations I'm afraid....

Formula one teams to train with Warrington in a bid to speed up wheel changes

Did you see the link with a geriatric driver there???

Last season at one point Leeds didnt have any wheels left to come off and look how that turned out!

nah...they started without any wheels and gradually managed to put them on through the season

Is this exactly the same situation then?

If you look at the start of the season, we have had a murderers row of games. To play Wigan, Leeds, Hudds, Hull and the Dragons away in the ifrst 3rd of the season is a tough ask. We caught Saints in a hot streak. We haven't lost games against a team I wouldn't expect to beat us. We have lost against Leeds, Saints and the Dragons with two being away from home, and we have have won at Wigan and Huddersfield which are two really tough away games. If you're looking at it sensibly then you will see futher than it being "the old players" or other bs excuses. I acknowledge that our performances haven't been great but we were dealing out bummings every week last year and that got us nowhere. It is going to be great season by the looks of it with a lot of teams challenging at the top. I don't know why people feel the need to get their knobs out when another team loses. Let's debate not hate.