Well Nobby tells me our training includes all sorts of set plays and dummy runners but the players throw it out of the window come match day, so I don't know what to believe about our tactics. I am firmly of the opinion, however, that there have been mistakes in team selection that must rest on his shoulders.



I for one await his next team selection with great interest since he clearly intimated that some players had to go.

If players aren't playing to instruction, then drop them. If it's half a dozen players not doing as they're told, drop them. It'll send a message out to the players.

Agreed. It's not about results, it's about attitude and performance. If he dropped a few and the new team stuck together - whatever the result - I would back them - and him - 100%.

Absolutely. Last season and this season we've played boring rugby. If Nobby is addressing this and bringing set plays in, as promised at the fans forum, then great. If the players aren't putting these plays in motion on match day then there's something wrong. Are they not doing it because they're incapable, under pressure, don't want to? Whatever the reason, it needs resolving.

the thing was is getting on my nerves the most is where not getting battered, ok where not winning but where putting points on the board,

We also have around 40% of the SC on four or five players.

Many of the recent signings were to stack up numbers as it was a small squad. A lot of the players are simply not good enough for a club that wants to get to the top of the League.

Only when some of these vast earners come off contract can we re-negotiate for the ones we want to keep and replace the others.

If Noble did depart then who would we get?

Cullen - not good enough? Hanley - A self publicist of the highest order.

Neither are suitable for Wigan.

Stick with Noble and see who he identifies for 2010.

In the meantime IL should bring forward his possible mid season signing to an early season arrival.

Bloody hell. Somebody else who has access to player wages. Or did IL say this at a fans forum or something?

With what Ted is saying about IL signings and not Noble signings, didnt some people (wigan fans) in Austrailia for the world cup talk to Noble over there and Noble said he didnt want Piggy and identified someone else but IL insisted on him? Im sure someone posted this.

Apparently Buderus was our first choice but we crapped out.

Hindsight- Dont sign Phelps for this year, dont sign Piggy, dont sign Roberts, dont sign Smith, dont retain Mathers.



Move for Buderus, Jeremy Smith and Brett Hodgson so 3 overseas instead of 4 and im absolutly sure that gives us enough money to move for another prop and retain Colban. Colban not the greatest player in a Wigan shirt but better than Mathers and more than good enough to compete with Ainscough to cover the wings if Pat is needed to drop to FB.



1. Hodgson.

2. Pryce/Colban/Ainscough.

3.Goulding.

4. Carmont.

5. Paaat

6. J. Smith

7. Tommy

8. Fielden

9. Buderus

10. Prescott

11. Hock

12. Bailey/Hansen/J.Tomkins

13. Locky



14. Feka

15. Eamonn/New Prop/Coley

16. McIlloram/S.Tomkins

17.Hansen/J.Tomkins/Bailey



Plenty of options IMO.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing cocker. The thing Wigan employ Lenegan and Noble for (yes IL will be an employee as well as the owner) is foresight, something that prevents us signing/retaining the wrong people!

It wasn't Buderus. I'm not a big fan of the NRL so the name mentioned didn't stick in my mind (plus I'd had a few, it was Oz after all) the only thing that stuck in my mind was Piggy was Nobby's second choice.



So I think it's harsh to say Nobby didn't want Piggy he just wasn't his first option. Nobby was definitely very positive about him and it came across as although we may have failed in getting our target we still have a star player. He hasn't shown it yet but let's remember it's only three games in.