Interested to read what people’s thoughts are on the yellow card last night? It’s amazing how red cards are given for the likes of Makinson at Cas but only a yellow for an intentional head shot on Delaney.

I thought the ref was hopelessly out of his depth last night. How he missed the Simms shoulder charge is beyond me however that fired us up so it wasn’t all bad.

Welsby is getting back to his best and was class last night. Forwards were great too.

Zig- wondering what you think of Stephens? He’s certainly not looking out of place at this level.

Thought the yellow was the correct call personally. Yes, we've seen reds for much less but I'd say that's more of a problem of those red cards being dog calls rather than last night being a red. The ref was right that he did hit the back first and slide up. The shoulder charge was a shocker though, and should have been a yellow at the very least.

Personally, I can't stand soft red cards. I think the fact that people are calling for at least 1 red a game now has shown how far the sport has fallen. Red cards should be reserved for serious foul play and stuff that stands out, I don't think they're needed anywhere near as often as they're shown. They completely change and more often than not completely ruin a game and seeing as many reds as we've been seeing is just effecting too many results, skewing the league table etc. Look at that sending off we had against Salford. We were absolutely cruising that game, got a soft red and then they came back and won. Completely ruined the game. I'd rather we use the yellow more often as a deterrent rather than risking ruining the integrity of the league by dishing out a load of reds

Yeah I probably should’ve added that I’ve not seen it back on TV yet or heard what the ref said.

I still think he was way out of his depth though, he’s a long way behind his brother in controlling a game.

Just typed a message out but the site crashed on me
In summary:
Saints looked good better attacker plays but still not 100%
Stephen’s looked decent good breaks made by the lad
Makinson and Hurrell limping isn’t a good sign
Catalan will likely slip down the league if they can’t fix their fitness
Thought the yellow was fair enough think the ref explained it well when he called the two captains over. The other shot by simms should have been carded

Having just watched it back I think the yellow was correct to be fair.

Stu - this site won’t let me quote you again! I thought the lad played well last night, I maybe wrong and if I am I will hold my hand up, as always. For what it is worth, I think Catalans have gone backwards fast, they have no attacking threat. They had enough possession and territory to put Saints to the sword. Twelve months ago, with Tomkins et al in the team, it would have been a different result. I think the top four is now settled, only the pecking order to be sorted out.

Stu - by the way, which persona are you identifying by today?

I’ve always been Stu M on here but for some reason you quoted The Reaper on here thinking it was me….

You’ve done similar before with another poster I think but I’ve never changed my name on here.

Fair enough Stu, somebody else mentioned that and given that you didn’t correct them at the time (I don’t think you did anyway), I took it to be true.

Well hopefully we can avoid Saints because over on Redvee they still beat us 9 times out of 10

I seen that. Was it Magic Super Beetle? He or she is probably using their 5 year signings they have no chance of getting in their thinking.

Not a sniff saints beat Wigan 9 out of 10.

7 maybe 8 but not 9. This current Wigan team is easily the most hyped team In SL history

You mean the current holders of all the trophies except the CC which we play for in a few days and, if we win, become only the 3rd team in Superleague history to hold all the available trophies at the same time is the most hyped in history



I used to feel sorry for you but I can't even drum that up anymore when you don't even help yourself. You post the most infantile stuff I've ever seen on these forums and that's saying something.

Right I've given Wigan enough credit today...

Robertson scored 7 tries for our Academy on Friday night. That's some achievement at any level.

We are going to need him and some others to step up in the next couple of seasons!

Come on Stu, you can manage another couple of posts of credit, I'm sure!

I haven't seen Robertson play but, as you say, 7 tries at any level is promising. What's your thoughts on him?

I've mentioned before that him and Farrimond stood out big time when I watched the Wigan v Saints U16s game at St Judes back in 2022.

I don't know if he will be a 1 or a 6. He's played both but currently excelling at 6. He's a tall, lanky lad so needs some more size on him but he reminds me very much of Welsby when he first came through, although Robertson has the more athletic running style. His gait reminds me of Ponga, he has a great step and footwork.

However its very different stepping up to SL level and I think he is still at least 12-18 months away.

I noticed a few on RedVee suggesting he wasn't physically ready. I saw Jack Farrimond close up for the first time yesterday and he looked tiny but he's equipped himself very well in the first team when he's played. I have been particularly impressed with his willingness, even effectiveness, in defense. I know different players progress at different rates but surely Robertson, being older and a bigger lad generally, can't be that far behind Jack?

Not sure. He still looks skinny to me and he hasn't been as effective in the Reserves as yet as he is at Academy level. Given how much he is ripping the Academy up it may be worth giving him a go at some point against a bottom 2 side. He did play on the wing for the Reserves incidentally so maybe they will look to introduce him there, the same way that Dodd played 9 under Woolf for 10 mins a game whilst he bedded in.

The problem now is that the wing position is a tough one. With the amount of kick returns they put in and defending under the high ball it could be a chastening debut!

Wing is tough in the modern game. I'm not sure it's the easy baptism it once was. Look at the physical endeavours of Miski and Marshall on Saturday. Those hard yards are expected now. I think it's probably why Ritson isn't getting a look in at your place currently.

I think Robertson and Farrimond are in the same age group. U18's academy, but both have played reserve grade. BOTH are excellent prospects. I'm not sure if Robertson is #1 or #6 but he's definitely one for the future and Farrimond is even now being spoken very highly of and not just by Wigan.

Do you think Robertson is ready for first team rugby?

12 July is the next big date in the calendar, whoever wins will be red hot favourites to lift the LLS.

I think that Saints need to let the lad dip his toe in the water, the London fixture is an ideal opportunity.

We need to get Jack tied down on a Nsembe type deal. It looks like we could have unearthed two generational talents.

I agree, maybe London or they've also got Cas at home twice before the end of the season.