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| Can I have a PM I have heard something myself and just want to know its the same
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| Could I add my name to the PM request please.
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| Any chance of a PM also please.
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| Can people stop sending me PM's please, I'm not interested in the truth.
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| I wouldn't mind a pm please.
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| Nothing here yet...
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| I'll have one too please
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Nothing here yet...
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Funny how those 'in the know' don't seem to be very forthcoming with the PMs.
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| Quote ="ksm1701"Funny how those 'in the know' don't seem to be very forthcoming with the PMs.
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Ask yourself why.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Ask yourself why.'"
Sorry, but I think he'd be better asking the people who claim to know.
It's a serious issue, this, and some serious allegations are being implied.
Those who feel Hock has been hard done-to really need to start providing far more adequate answers if they want to be taken seriously.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Ask yourself why.'"
Usually due to it being a load of old rubbish. Hock himself has had his chance to put his side accross and hasnt.
If my proffesionalism was brought into question publicly by my employer I would be coming clean with everything I had. That he isnt speaks volumes!
His silence on the matter says more than a few frank dux types on here who pretend to know what happemed but convieniently cant say dont you think!
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Usually due to it being a load of old rubbish. Hock himself has had his chance to put his side accross and hasnt.
If my proffesionalism was brought into question publicly by my employer I would be coming clean with everything I had. That he isnt speaks volumes!
His silence on the matter says more than a few frank dux types on here who pretend to know what happemed but convieniently cant say dont you think!'"
Totally naive. Believe what you like.
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Usually due to it being a load of old rubbish. Hock himself has had his chance to put his side accross and hasnt.
If my proffesionalism was brought into question publicly by my employer I would be coming clean with everything I had. That he isnt speaks volumes!
His silence on the matter says more than a few frank dux types on here who pretend to know what happemed but convieniently cant say dont you think!'"
He has been advised to say nothing by the Players Association. Without going into detail Hock had some personal problems he asked the club for help with and was told by SW to sort it himself as he wasn't interested. That was the beginning of the end for their relationship
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Ask yourself why.'"
Is it because I have a PR postcode nowadays?
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| Quote ="bazdev"He has been advised to say nothing by the Players Association. Without going into detail Hock had some personal problems he asked the club for help with and was told by SW to sort it himself as he wasn't interested. That was the beginning of the end for their relationship'"
"SW, I've got a problem"
"What?"
"I'm constipated"
"Sort it out yerself"
"Screw you then. I want to go to Australia. I mean Widnes"
Please note this is conjecture and in no way should my comments be construed as libellous. Other than to Gaz's back passage.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"icon_lol.gif
Sorry, but I think he'd be better asking the people who claim to know.
It's a serious issue, this, and some serious allegations are being implied.
Those who feel Hock has been hard done-to really need to start providing far more adequate answers if they want to be taken seriously.'"
No they don't. People on here can believe what they like it's their personal entitlement. People, myself included are refraining from opening speaking about the truth due to the nature of the people involved.
However people can't respect that and push for answers.
No one in here is held accountable to any other posters, if they feel unwilling to accept it then so be it.
Myself and other posters simply offered a suggestion than there maybe another side to the story, as in all truth there is.
Like always on here the tone became argumentative, and demanding.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"
Like always on here the tone became argumentative, and demanding.'"
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| Quote ="sybutwhy?"'"
Grow up.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Ultimately, IL's comments about Hock messing Maguire about as well as Wane nullify all the statements to the effect that Wane is somehow in the wrong. '"
That doesn't follow at all. He could have messed Madge about all the time he was here but that doesn't prove Wane didn't do anything wrong himself.
Quote Clearly, Hock has an issue with coaches - i.e. those in charge of imposing discipline on him.'"
How do you know he has an issue with coaches in general? He didn't seem to have any before the ban as far as I am aware.
Quote For that reason alone, I strongly doubt he will ever play for Wigan again. IL's own comments - about Hock letting the club down - then seem to reinforce this.
Those insisting that it's a waiting game for Wane to get his marching orders, sound increasingly like Gareth's mates, parroting what the player himself hopes for rather than what he seriously expects.'"
I don't think he will be back either. It would be an amazing U turn for the club given IL's statement. I think that would be the case even if the rumours about what really lies behind it turn out to be true.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Like always on here the tone became argumentative, and demanding.'"
Not exactly demanding. Most just politely asked for PMs to understand what's (allegedly) gone on better.
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| Quote ="ksm1701"Not exactly demanding. Most just politely asked for PMs to understand what's (allegedly) gone on better.'"
Politely? Ha! What a joke. Often criticised for offering a counter. Regardless of such hopefully all will come out in due time, but not from me.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"No they don't. People on here can believe what they like it's their personal entitlement. People, myself included are refraining from opening speaking about the truth due to the nature of the people involved.
However people can't respect that and push for answers.
No one in here is held accountable to any other posters, if they feel unwilling to accept it then so be it.
Myself and other posters simply offered a suggestion than there maybe another side to the story, as in all truth there is.
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No you didn't. You've been saying the club chairman is lying and that anyone who believes him is totally naive - without a shred of evidence or explanation.
And people are not asking you to speak openly, they are asking you for a pm.
What is so controversial about that?
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Usually due to it being a load of old rubbish. Hock himself has had his chance to put his side accross and hasnt.
If my proffesionalism was brought into question publicly by my employer I would be coming clean with everything I had. That he isnt speaks volumes!
His silence on the matter says more than a few frank dux types on here who pretend to know what happemed but convieniently cant say dont you think!'"
I agree totally with the first two paragraphs. Not so sure about the 3rd. If rumours regarding Hock's circle of friends are true you might not want to be posting something on here that you shouldn't, especially if the person who told you is someone not to annoy. Saying that the whole 'i know something you dont know' thing is
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"No they don't. People on here can believe what they like it's their personal entitlement. People, myself included are refraining from opening speaking about the truth due to the nature of the people involved.
However people can't respect that and push for answers.
No one in here is held accountable to any other posters, if they feel unwilling to accept it then so be it.
Myself and other posters simply offered a suggestion than there maybe another side to the story, as in all truth there is.
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No you didn't. You've been saying the club chairman is lying and that anyone who believes him is totally naive - without a shred of evidence or explanation.
And people are not asking you to speak openly, they are asking you for a pm.
What is so controversial about that?'"
Exactly. If you aren't prepared to back your comments up then don't make them.
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