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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Do you work at the RFL?
Thats sounds like a crappy excuse that they would come up with.'"
Its not an excuse, just a simple understanding. To build up a clean record you need to have played here for a few years. Im not even saying that this is right, I dont think previous should count. It should be based purely on what the incident is.
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| Seems to me that RFL are more concerned with previous incidents, that what actually happened during the game.
Quite strange.
EDIT - Bondi Warrior i was not plagiarising, you just beat me too it
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| Adrian Morley's disiplinary record was carried over to Australia when he left Leeds.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"Correct, but Aus records ARE taken into consideration by our disciplinary so Lima's good record over there and the fact that it was his first game in this country so should have been given the BOD maybe a caution or Warning letter'"
I dont think they are as its a different governing body, would be unfair as they have different rules for some things.
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Quote ="tugglesf78"Seems to me that RFL are more concerned with previous incidents, that what actually happened during the game.
Quite strange.'"
Obviously not THAT much:
Exceptional Record my ar$e............. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 963470.stm
Quote Just nine minutes had gone when a sudden rush of blood to the head earned a straight red card for Hull club captain Radford, who only this week pledged his future to the club by signing a new two-year contract.
He took exception to apparent use of the elbow by Leeds prop Ryan Bailey and began swinging punches which did not miss their target. '"
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Quote ="tugglesf78"Seems to me that RFL are more concerned with previous incidents, that what actually happened during the game.
Quite strange.'"
Obviously not THAT much:
Exceptional Record my ar$e............. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 963470.stm
Quote Just nine minutes had gone when a sudden rush of blood to the head earned a straight red card for Hull club captain Radford, who only this week pledged his future to the club by signing a new two-year contract.
He took exception to apparent use of the elbow by Leeds prop Ryan Bailey and began swinging punches which did not miss their target. '"
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Disagree with that.
Even from being a young lad i was taught to run the ball in, if i had just been smashed, hit high, punched etc.
Its the way it has always been'"
Yes of course, but do it fairly. Giving Joel the ball straight after scrapping with Yeaman was stupidity and lead to him being sent off.
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| Quote ="foz11"Adrian Morley's disiplinary record was carried over to Australia when he left Leeds.'"
I feel sorry for the people who had to carry it then, must have been pretty heavy
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| A bit of double standards from Mr Agar too:
Hull coach Richard Agar said:
Quote "Lee Radford is gutted and has apologised to the boys. He copped two beauties on the side of his head and reacted.
"Nine minutes into the game, =#800000the referee could have showed a little bit of common sense. We had two front rowers going at it hammer and tongs and two sin-binnings might have defused the situation.'"
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| Quote ="Pieman"I dont think they are as its a different governing body, would be unfair as they have different rules for some things.'"
They are, I read it on a recent incident, I can't remember which one but I will try and find it
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I DO NOT want to start all that "the RFL hate us" blah blah blah
But it is very hard to explain the outcome of this weeks disciplinary without feeling slightly confused.
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I DO NOT want to start all that "the RFL hate us" blah blah blah
But it is very hard to explain the outcome of this weeks disciplinary without feeling slightly confused.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Yes of course, but do it fairly. Giving Joel the ball straight after scrapping with Yeaman was stupidity and lead to him being sent off.'"
J.Tomkins has played long enough now to realise that you cant go in with a raised elbow and expect to get away with it wheather its after a brawl or not!
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"My point was how he could get off based on his record as opposed to a player new to the league who therefore doesnt have a record to consider.'"
Which is bs you should get based on offence in question not the past other wise unfair on new kids and new over seas players
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Yes of course, but do it fairly. Giving Joel the ball straight after scrapping with Yeaman was stupidity and lead to him being sent off.'"
Again, i have got to disagree.
Without knowing if you have played at any level (i presume you will have). Giving Joel the ball to Joel was exactly the right decision. I would go as far as saying it won us the game.
If a teammate of mine did what Joel did, i would be patting him on the back, because he never let Yeaman away with it. Winning the fight and intimidating your opponent is a big, big part of the game.
Wigan were so pumped up after the biff, that they wiped the floor with Hull.
Many will disagree, but Joel did the right thing. You never heard (many) people lambasting Kelvin Skerrett for chinning someone.
Wigan over the last few years have lacked in dishing it out and people have taken liberties as a result. Yes it is not ideal losing players for a couple of games, but if that is the way it is going to be then so be it.
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| Quote ="bowvey"Which is bs you should get based on offence in question not the past other wise unfair on new kids and new over seas players'"
Which ive already said thats what I think to. Im just merely explaining how a player can and cant have a record. Im not going to bother next time as I forgot thats this is rlfans where you get all the know it alls and experts jumping on every little word you say if they dont agree.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Again, i have got to disagree.
Without knowing if you have played at any level (i presume you will have). Giving Joel the ball to Joel was exactly the right decision. I would go as far as saying it won us the game.
If a teammate of mine did what Joel did, i would be patting him on the back, because he never let Yeaman away with it. Winning the fight and intimidating your opponent is a big, big part of the game.
Wigan were so pumped up after the biff, that they wiped the floor with Hull.
Many will disagree, but Joel did the right thing. You never heard (many) people lambasting Kelvin Skerrett for chinning someone.
Wigan over the last few years have lacked in dishing it out and people have taken liberties as a result. Yes it is not ideal losing players for a couple of games, but if that is the way it is going to be then so be it.'"
This. 100%.
The only thing wrong with the way it was carried out on Sunday was Joel's poor technique let him down. He tried to run the ball into Yeaman like a prop would, (hitting him hard in the chest and then moving upwards to knock him on his ) and got it all wrong. He'll work on it and come back a better player for it.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Giving Joel the ball to Joel was exactly the right decision. I would go as far as saying it won us the game.'"
I think many would disagree with you on that. Although I do think it consequently helped win us the game, so I would agree with you on the 2nd part.
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| The chuckle brothers got what they deserve, take your medicine and move on.
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| Quote ="Lucky XIII"The only thing wrong with the way it was carried out on Sunday was Joel's poor technique let him down. He tried to run the ball into Yeaman like a prop would, (hitting him hard in the chest and then moving upwards to knock him on his booty) and got it all wrong. He'll work on it and come back a better player for it.'"
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| Who was on the Disciplinary Panel? Gary Hetherington, Tony Smith and the Huddersfield chairman? Or has Garry Schofield already walked into a new job?!!
The comment about Radford's good previous record is an absolute joke - bottom line is he was sent off last year for punching. When has Sam ever been sent off? Therefore his record must be superior to Radford's. As is Lima's....
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| When was the last time Sam missed a game for us?
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"I think many would disagree with you on that. Although I do think it consequently helped win us the game, so I would agree with you on the 2nd part.'"
We will have to agree to disagree then.
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| I really thought Joel would have used is noggin and ran in and waited for yeaman to give the penalty away (which no doubt would have happened)
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"When was the last time Sam missed a game for us?'"
Ominously I think it was the last game of the 2009 season when we got battered away at Huddersfield
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| Radford has got previous good character, anyone that batters Ryan Bailey deserves a reward not a punishment, the RFL probably said
"We'll let this Wigan incident go, but now we're even ok?"
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