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| Quote ="sf"Listen to this guy, he could teach a lot of people who have posted on this thread a few things about human beings and humanity. Much of this thread seems to point to a vicious nature in fans, and clear and unreasonable prejudice. I just wonder whether it is the disappointment of losing when you were not supposed to that has brought out this backlash? Pretty embarrassing to read some of your comments. I know I shouldn't have bothered .........'"
why did you then? Decide to climb down from your high horse?
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| Quote ="PaulM"By 'hand' can we assume you mean achilles?'"
I meant ankle, dont know where I got hand from
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"I meant ankle, dont know where I got hand from
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| Quote ="DaveO"Since when is tackling a player without the ball to prevent a score not a professional foul? Carmont was deliberately held back so could not support Richards, Richards was tackled without the ball and in both cases these were deliberate actions to prevent a score.
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Or in reality, McGuire tugged a bit at Carmont's shirt while Carmont was still in his own half with Leeds players covering and Carmont fell over like Emile Heskey, and Richards hoofed his awful "kick on" pretty much straight into touch and was then tackled a split second later. If Donald had made a Herculean effort and somehow avoided Richards then there was still absolutely no chance whatsoever he would have gotten anywhere near the ball apart from picking it up from the crowd after the hooter.
This is the most pathetic thread I've seen on this forum. You're still in it. Leeds have won 3 GF's after losing their first playoff game. You didn't lose your best player either, the one guy who's been ripping it up all year for us consistantly making big plays. In the last few weeks we lost the England captain until next April, the guy who could have filled in for him to a brainless challenge from a Cas cement head and have most of the rest of our pack carrying serious knocks. Stop whining, oh sorry that's us isn't it? You have every chance now to put it right next week and come back strong. Champions don't give up. Are you Champions? Time to ask the question.
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| Quote ="DHM"Or in reality, McGuire tugged a bit at Carmont's shirt while Carmont was still in his own half with Leeds players covering and Carmont fell over like Emile Heskey, and Richards hoofed his awful "kick on" pretty much straight into touch and was then tackled a split second later. If Donald had made a Herculean effort and somehow avoided Richards then there was still absolutely no chance whatsoever he would have gotten anywhere near the ball apart from picking it up from the crowd after the hooter.
This is the most pathetic thread I've seen on this forum. You're still in it. Leeds have won 3 GF's after losing their first playoff game. You didn't lose your best player either, the one guy who's been ripping it up all year for us consistantly making big plays. In the last few weeks we lost the England captain until next April, the guy who could have filled in for him to a brainless challenge from a Cas cement head and have most of the rest of our pack carrying serious knocks. Stop whining, oh sorry that's us isn't it? You have every chance now to put it right next week and come back strong. Champions don't give up. Are you Champions? Time to ask the question.'"
Carmont would of stayed up if he could of done, why would he go down with seconds left and an easy tryscoring opportunity on the cards to win the game? Leeds players covering? What a crock of crap
If mcguire doesnt take out Carmont it would of been a try.
FWIW im not ed off or anything as its not over yet. Im just letting you know your wrong.
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| McGuire had done himself in before he'd started to bring down Carmont, if I'm being honest I'm not too sure if it was a deliberate challenge, but more one out of bodily instinct. Watch the slow-mo again, McGuire's left (i think) foot catches the back of Carmont's foot as he's bringing his foot down while sprinting, this causes McGuire's foot to land back about a foot or so back from where it would do otherwise, this is when the injury occurs, due to this McGuire loses his balance and would have fallen onto the back of Carmont's leg, in turn, he tries to grab him to keep his balance, but starts to realise he's done himself an injury and falls over, bringing Carmont down with him...
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Carmont would of stayed up if he could of done, why would he go down with seconds left and an easy tryscoring opportunity on the cards to win the game?
Leeds players covering? What a crock of crap
If mcguire doesnt take out Carmont it would of been a try.
FWIW im not vexed off or anything as its not over yet. Im just letting you know your wrong.'"
Emile Heskey. Give it up, 5% chance of a try at best.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Carmont would of stayed up if he could of done, why would he go down with seconds left and an easy tryscoring opportunity on the cards to win the game?
Leeds players covering? What a crock of crap
If mcguire doesnt take out Carmont it would of been a try.
FWIW im not vexed off or anything as its not over yet. Im just letting you know your wrong.'"
Whatever happened to [iwould have....... could have?[/i........your grammar is as accurate as your analysis.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Should be [iwould have....... could have[/i.........you are grammatically as well as factually incorrect.'"
Sorry teacher my mistake. I thought this was a rugby forum not a spelling and grammar contest.
I must not use bad spelling and grammar on a rugby league forum
I must not use bad spelling and grammar on a rugby league forum
I must not use bad spelling and grammar on a rugby league forum
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I promise i wont do it again, please dont tell my mummy and daddy
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| Quote ="DHM"Emile Heskey. Give it up, 5% chance of a try at best.'"
If Carmont is Emile Heskey, you are Gazza.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Carmont would of stayed up if he could of done, why would he go down with seconds left and an easy tryscoring opportunity on the cards to win the game?
Leeds players covering? What a crock of crap
If mcguire doesnt take out Carmont it would of been a try.
FWIW im not vexed off or anything as its not over yet. Im just letting you know your wrong.'"
AS i said earlier in this thread , if the ref had of stopped the game like he should have because Brent webb was down the wigan wouldnt have broke in the first place , they where fortunate to get a shot at goal to win the game after a kick to touch
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| Quote ="doc999"AS i said earlier in this thread , if the ref had of stopped the game like he should have because Brent webb was down the wigan wouldnt have broke in the first place , they where fortunate to get a shot at goal to win the game after a kick to touch'"
Par for the course, Tommy was down for a full set, Alibert didn't stop the game then either.
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| Quote ="Donna"Par for the course, Tommy was down for a full set, Alibert didn't stop the game then either.'"
didnt see Tommy's but its still a mute/moot point
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| Quote ="doc999"AS i said earlier in this thread , if the ref had of stopped the game like he should have because Brent webb was down the wigan wouldnt have broke in the first place , they where fortunate to get a shot at goal to win the game after a kick to touch'"
Since when have rugby games stopped for a player down? The game didnt stop when we had a man down and i see plenty of occasions where players have been down and play continues.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Since when have rugby games stopped for a player down? The game didnt stop when we had a man down and i see plenty of occasions where players have been down and play continues.'"
if hes interfering with play or you have players running in his direction it should be stopped, if its backplay then it dosnt really matter , the fact that the ref never did this for Wigan dosnt really matter we arnt talking about the incidents that stemmed from that in this thread
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| Quote ="doc999"if hes interfering with play or you have players running in his direction it should be stopped, if its backplay then it dosnt really matter , the fact that the ref never did this for Wigan dosnt really matter we arnt talking about the incidents that stemmed from that in this thread'"
Of course it matters! The ref should apply the rules evenly to both teams. Webb wasnt exactly slap bang in the middle of the action either was he?
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| The TL one was in back play, at the time looked pretty serious - face down motionless, that and Leeds pressing on our line was sending our fans into a frenzy.
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| Lets stop talking about Danny boys cheating and talk about Salary caps and Wigan,now that was cheating
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Lets stop talking about Danny boys cheating and talk about Salary caps and Wigan,now that was cheating
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Even though it wasn't, they had to make up a new law to penalise us for it.
Tell me the difference between what Fielden did (deferring part of his wage the first year to then be split across the subsequent years) to what Leeds have done with Lee Smith (which is where they had to pay him pittance in year 1 to fit him in the cap, with the promise of substantial increases the year after to make up for it).
Thats why we didn't break the cap, but we broke the "spirit" of the cap.
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| Mate dress it up all you want it was cheating,ask the people at Cas.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Mate dress it up all you want it was cheating,ask the people at Cas.'"
Because they are the most unbiased people to ask in that scenario aren't they?
Answer the question though, whats the difference?
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| If everyone was as good as gold then there would be no need for a ref or accountants
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| Carnt answer it mate but you and i both know it was cheating,poor loosers Wigan plus double standards all Mcguire did last night was gamesmanship it happens all the time in games it warranted 10 mins in the bin, Kev Brown did it a few weeks ago when the Giants beat you he was binned,and when Mason stood on Feildens leg you lot wanted him hanging from the yard iron but when Tomkins kicks Mcguire nothing at all on here i am afraid the Wigan fans wont see anything untill the take them tinted specs off.
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| BOYD 2 is just a little boy, probably already been banned before hence the 2 in his name. Wont be long before he is banned again I feel. What a sad life people lead to have to come on here and try and get reaction by spouting rubbish. I feel sorry for people like that at times.
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