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| Quote ="Father Ted"Fielden is the only one with a past reputation and it is he they target. No one targets Coley as they have 2 row men who can handle him.
What I just don't understand is that since IL bought the club, and before, props were our signing priority.
Since IL arrived we've brought in Mathers, Phelps, Pryce, Roberts, Gleeson, Carmont, Smith & Riddell. Only one forward and he's a 9. Not a prop anywhere.
Why?
We've obviously had the cash to pay a transfer fee and salary cap money available to sign all those backs so the dosh has always been there.
Our pack is getting beaten almost every week and when a signing arrives he's a back.
We can have the best backs and halves around but if the pack is getting steamrollered then none of them will be able to put in a decent game between them.
I just don't understand it at all!'"
IL is obsessed with attackig rugby and fast wingers. His interview about Gleeson was more about Roberts try v Hudds than it was about Gleeson. I do feel, his obsession in this area, is perhaps detremental to the building of the squad we need.
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| Quote ="Grimmy" All Fielden does is tackle, fall at players feet and stand tall with his hands on his hips like he's He Man.'"
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| Quote ="nikos"and knock-on regularly'"
followed by a really convincing, 'it-wasn't-me-ref-it-was-him' look to the ref.
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| Quote ="gpartin"followed by a really convincing, 'it-wasn't-me-ref-it-was-him' look to the ref.'"
and the tackler, at the same time, (but with different eyes)
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| Quote ="nikos"and the tackler, at the same time, (but with different eyes)
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| Quote ="AJ"IL is obsessed with attackig rugby and fast wingers. His interview about Gleeson was more about Roberts try v Hudds than it was about Gleeson. I do feel, his obsession in this area, is perhaps detremental to the building of the squad we need.'"
He reads this forum on a regular basis so surely he knows the fans feelings on what players we need.
I really hope he's listening because we need 2 forwards, 1 prop and one ball handling backrower imo if we're going to progress.
A scrum half also wouldn't go amiss for next year but he'd be pointless without the 2 forwards imo.
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| Well if IL is reading we could do with
Ben Cross (Newcastle Knights)
Mark O'Meley (Roosters) or
Luke Bailey (Gold Coast)
Nathan Cayless (Parramatta) and Andy Lynch /LMS for next year.
I would like us to try to sign a good up and coming NRL prop like Justin Poore (Dragons) or Thom Lehroyd Lahs (Raiders).
Add to that the signing of a proven quality halback to partner Leuluai or Tomkins in either Matt Orford/Braith Anasta/Brett Kimmorley.
All these signings I think we are capable of doing, I would like to sign better players but they are still playing rep footy.
Out of them all I think Cayless and Lynch with LMS next year would prob happen TBH. With maybe Orford going to Wire in place of Monaghan who is off the Canberra we should try and get Kimmorley/Anasta.
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Bailey, Coley, Smith, Phelps.
Loan out:- Goulding, Pryce, Flannagan, McIllorum and maybe Prescott/O'Carroll.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He reads this forum on a regular basis so surely he knows the fans feelings on what players we need.
I really hope he's listening because we need 2 forwards, 1 prop and one ball handling backrower imo if we're going to progress.
A scrum half also wouldn't go amiss for next year but he'd be pointless without the 2 forwards imo.'"
I think we need 2 props and a SH
Hansen Hock J Tomkins Lockers with probably Mossop pishing through will be the back rowers I reckon. A big line breaking 2nd rower would be nice but Mossop has the potential to do this so we should give him time and he will probably push Hansen out the side next season IMO
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"I think we need 2 props and a SH
Hansen Hock J Tomkins Lockers with probably Mossop pishing through will be the back rowers I reckon. A big line breaking 2nd rower would be nice but Mossop has the potential to do this so we should give him time and he will probably push Hansen out the side next season IMO'"
One prop for sure and possibly 2.
I'd like a player abit like Puleutua at Saints or Lauititi at Leeds who can play front row or second row. A player abit like Bryan Fletcher who can mix it in both positions.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"One prop for sure and possibly 2.
I'd like a player abit like Puleutua at Saints or Lauititi at Leeds who can play front row or second row. A player abit like Bryan Fletcher who can mix it in both positions.'"
I miss Fletcher we really haven't replaced him. Mossop will most likely be that player who plays prop and 2nd row for us with next season being his breakthrough year most likely. The reason I say 2 props is Fielden and Coley are just not up to it. Fielden will be here next season so we will only get one prop for next season. Luke Bailey would be my preference but I think we will end up with Andy Lynch (no idea why btw) Asotasi will be off contract at the same time as Fielden and I would really like to us to go for him (unless we got an overseas prop to replace Coley) but again I doubt it and we will probably either resign Fielden or get LMS/someone similar
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I would like to ask him 'Could I have that on Hearty Italian please, Stuart?'
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| Quote ="JTB"I would like to ask him 'Could I have that on Hearty Italian please, Stuart?''"
Ft long or 6inch?
Or is that to personal?
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| Quote ="Lippy"Ft long or 6inch?
Or is that to personal?'"
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"I miss Fletcher
we really haven't replaced him. Mossop will most likely be that player who plays prop and 2nd row for us with next season being his breakthrough year most likely. The reason I say 2 props is Fielden and Coley are just not up to it. Fielden will be here next season so we will only get one prop for next season. Luke Bailey would be my preference but I think we will end up with Andy Lynch (no idea why btw) Asotasi will be off contract at the same time as Fielden and I would really like to us to go for him (unless we got an overseas prop to replace Coley) but again I doubt it and we will probably either resign Fielden or get LMS/someone similar'"
Why the "probably"?
I mean you may be right, but the club's management would have to be completely stupid, and thus far they don't strike me as that.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Why the "probably"?
I mean you may be right, but the club's management would have to be completely stupid, and thus far they don't strike me as that.'"
I think I was talking about signing LMS/Someone similar as well (ie english)
But Fielden will probably play well next season because he wants a new contract and if he does I can see the club giving him one, especially if Noble is still coach
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| Quote There is a lot of speculation going around at the moment about your supposed desire to return back to Yorkshire in the near future, Now should you be offered the opportunity of such a deal would it be likely to do happen?, Also given the chance would you consider joining the Leeds Rhinos and reuniting your partnership with Jamie Peacock?'"
That's my question i wonder if it will be published?...
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| he is not as good as he use to be but not the worse in sl by far
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| Quote ="tricky t74"he is not as good as he use to be but not the worse in sl by far'"
The interesting thing re. Stuart is that, while everyone's calling him crap, it would be interesting to see how much money would be required to change hands were he actually to transfer somewhere.
I can't see that Wigan would want to part with the guy on a free when it may just be that he's homesick, and so, the moment he gets over the Penines, could start ripping the league up again.
A lot of people who are not Wigan fans are calling him - and have been doing since the moment we signed him - simply because he's at Wigan. But you wonder how they'd feel if he was suddenly joining their club.
I'd agree that he's not done a sterling job for us, and therefore is on way too much money, but I can't help suspecting that if, say in a month or two's time, he was lining up against us, we might see a very different animal.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The interesting thing re. Stuart is that, while everyone's calling him crap, it would be interesting to see how much money would be required to change hands were he actually to transfer somewhere.
I can't see that Wigan would want to part with the guy on a free when it may just be that he's homesick, and so, the moment he gets over the Penines, could start ripping the league up again.
A lot of people who are not Wigan fans are calling him - and have been doing since the moment we signed him - simply because he's at Wigan. But you wonder how they'd feel if he was suddenly joining their club.
I'd agree that he's not done a sterling job for us, and therefore is on way too much money, but I can't help suspecting that if, say in a month or two's time, he was lining up against us, we might see a very different animal.'"
He just seems to have lost the fight really, I can sympathise as I believe he carried our pack single handedly the season he arrived, and since then every team has just sent men after men onto him the safe knowledge that if they negate fielden, our pack fails.
If you put him into st helens, leeds or even warringtons pack, he would still look a very good player with the right coach as well. He's justt carrying too much on his shoulders and its taken its toll.
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| Quote ="inside_man"He just seems to have lost the fight really, I can sympathise as I believe he carried our pack single handedly the season he arrived, and since then every team has just sent men after men onto him the safe knowledge that if they negate fielden, our pack fails.
If you put him into st helens, leeds or even warringtons pack, he would still look a very good player with the right coach as well. He's justt carrying too much on his shoulders and its taken its toll.'"
would love to see him at leeds with jp in his ear and bluey with his arm around him(someone get bluey a step ladder)
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"would love to see him at leeds with jp in his ear and bluey with his arm around him(someone get bluey a step ladder)'"
I was a bit gutted that fielden didn't go to aus for the world cup tbh, i wanted to see how he'd perform with a better pack surrounding him.
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| Quote ="inside_man"I was a bit gutted that fielden didn't go to aus for the world cup tbh, i wanted to see how he'd perform with a better pack surrounding him.'"
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| Quote ="inside_man"He just seems to have lost the fight really, I can sympathise as I believe he carried our pack single handedly the season he arrived, and since then every team has just sent men after men onto him the safe knowledge that if they negate fielden, our pack fails.
If you put him into st helens, leeds or even warringtons pack, he would still look a very good player with the right coach as well. He's justt carrying too much on his shoulders and its taken its toll.'" Why because he didn't in his last season at Bradford.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The interesting thing re. Stuart is that, while everyone's calling him crap, it would be interesting to see how much money would be required to change hands were he actually to transfer somewhere.
I can't see that Wigan would want to part with the guy on a free when it may just be that he's homesick, and so, the moment he gets over the Penines, could start ripping the league up again.
A lot of people who are not Wigan fans are calling him - and have been doing since the moment we signed him - simply because he's at Wigan. But you wonder how they'd feel if he was suddenly joining their club.
I'd agree that he's not done a sterling job for us, and therefore is on way too much money, but I can't help suspecting that if, say in a month or two's time, he was lining up against us, we might see a very different animal.'"
That's an interesting point, I think I'd take him at Saints, but on a low amount of money, to see if a change of scenery would work for him. I've thought all along that he was one of those players that needed a change of scenery to refresh his career, but unfortunately for him he signed to a club with his old coach at the helm. a move to a completely different environment may have had a different result. Of course, the cost of him in both wages and transfer fees has had an influence on peoples reactions to his downward spiral.
I don't buy the homesick argument though, if he was that bad there is no reason he couldn't live over there and drive to work each day, it's only an hour and a half drive. Newlove did it for long enough with us.
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