It will be interesting but they will need some of the older players to help them. At this rate some of those experienced heads will be in care homes. Joking apart, these lads need some exposure this season if they are to transition seamlessly there is only so much experience playing on loan can give you. What still amazes me is that we still go on about how we need to protect young players, tell that to the greats like Murphy, Farrell and Gregory who were hardly out of school and yet holding down regular first team places.

Many think (including a number of TV commentators/) that Tommy Makinson is the best winger that SL has seen, but is that true? No doubt our friends over Billinge Hill will be fighting his corner but, I am not sure that the facts support crowning Tommy as the best. Ryan Hall will equal Danny McGuire's super league try scoring record if he scores one try against London, that will give him 247 in 362 appearances (0.68 tries per game). Ryan is followed closely by former Wigan wingman Josh Charnley who has, at present, recorded 238 touchdowns in 288 games (0.83). Both wingers have spent time away from Super League - Ryan for two seasons (2019/2020) and Josh (2017). Tommy has managed to score 183 tries in 294 appearances (0.62) according to the Rugby League Project. However, both players are older than Tommy and have played in SL longer. I am sure other posters will be able to introduce additional facts and arguments, let the discussion begin.

Surprised Saints fans are crying blue murder about the no try (which clearly wasn't) when they are adamant that Wardle's was definitely not a try against Penrith. Funny old world. Loving hearing their fans booing every decision, desperate acts from a team on the slide

You mentioned facts.fact is he won the golden boot. I know you can’t give any saints players any credit ever but tell me how many Wigan wingers have ever won the golden boot?

Unlicky lmao

[quotAe="RobRiches"You mentioned facts.fact is he won the golden boot. I know you can’t give any saints players any credit ever but tell me how many Wigan wingers have ever won the golden boot?

Unlicky lmao[/qdFa
Three have
Farrell
Hanley
Kenny

I only saw the first half but Percival was lucky not to see red for me. Clear contact to the head very similar to his Salford red card and how the Mbye 'try' didn't go upstairs is beyond me. lost it into the Leeds man before grounding.


But its all a conspiracy against them isnt it?

WTF has that got to do with the conversation you tool? If you look back at my previous posts you will recall what I said about Murphy, you obviously have a mental issue and therefore I pity you.

You can be daft sometimes.
I also think that you mean "unlucky" lmao,unless you did mean Unlicky-Licky My Ar*e Off,which would explain a lot.

To be honest I don't remember any of those 3 spending much time on the wing.

Hanley spent time on the wing, scoring lots of tries there.
From Wiki:

He scored a remarkable 55 tries in only 37 appearances, an achievement made even more remarkable as he switched between the positions of wing, centre and stand-off.

I'll concede he may have played on the wing in his first season, was that 1985/86? That is the year you are quoting the stats for.
He actually won the Golden Boot in 1989 and I'm fairly sure he didn't play many, if any, on the wing that year. As always I'm more than happy to be corrected

The discussion is not about a single season it is about which player has performed best during the SL era.

I think he's definitely one of the best , I'd maybe have him top 5 but definitely more 5th than 1st

Off the top of my head I'd say something like robinson, vainikolo, Richards, hall, makinson.

Charnley is definitely a great try scorer but not really close to these guys all round for me. I think Robinson and vainikolo are probably more spectacular but the other three are just all round great at everything.

The fact there is a thread on a Wigan forum discussing saints players says it all. There is no thread in redvee talking about Wigan players being because, no one cares lmao

There’s a difference between knowledgeable rugby league people who post on this site, of which you are not one, and a bunch of inward looking Saints fans (exceptions being some Saints fans who engage on here). If no one cares then why are you posting? It’s a discussion about the best SL winger, a category which Makinson fits into. People can either agree or disagree with what I have posted on the subject as long as they give their reasons. I suggest you just go and boil your head and let the rest of us get on with what we know best, debating rugby league.

We are on a thread named-WiganvSaints discussing Tommy and various wingers which all seems relevant to this thread.
There maybe no thread about Wigan on redvee but Wigan do get mentioned a lot usually in some derogative manner but not all posters are of that mindset.
On here the likes of Stu,FTV etc do contribute to a discussion on RL matters where as the likes of Rob contributes jacksh*t and continues to do so which begs the question why does he/her,she/him do this they/them could be lonely and in need of a cuddle this could be the reason he lashes out for the attention his parents never gave him.We as fans of the greatest game of all should maybe put our hands of friendship out to the little fella to show we love him and his mates in his head.

Why is this idiot not banned from the forum yet?

Isn't letting me quote the original but my 2 pence on the Makinson debate is that I think there's a real debate between him and Hall, and I wouldn't really have any problems with people putting Hall ahead of him. Great player. I'd have Makinson quite far ahead of Charnley though. There's more to being a winger than just scoring tries. Tommy has been huge for us in many aspects, including defence where he is immense and has also been incredibly important to our style of play with getting us on the front foot when returning the ball. Obviously he's a great finisher as well. His try scoring stats will be negatively impacted by our style of play over a lot of his career, plus years such as 2015-2017 where we just weren't very good.

Thank you for your input Stu. It is a pity that our ‘friend’ couldn’t post a reasoned argument.

Apparently the most incompetent/outright corrupt display of refereeing ever seen has taken place today at Salford

I thought that was last week?

What do we reckon regarding this post?

The Clown
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On a separate note I’d love to see someone decapitate Marshall the ing rat.

p.s. it didn’t really say ‘loving’.

Somebody on here said Saints fans didn’t post about Wigan on Redvee

absolutely unhinged.

and they seem convinced there's some plot involving the referees.

Paranoid scouse imbeciles

Try not to sit on the fence.