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| Quote ="vernon"Sorry mate, you're still not making any sense. I haven't posted any excuses for any team's performances, merely pointed out that some Wigan fans cannot accept they are not always the best.'"
Try reading your own posts after you've written them mate. It might prevent you making a fool of yourself!
Quote You were 'dreadful' because thats how Saints allowed you to be'"
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"You might want to compare metres made by our pack to yours - I haven't seen the stats, but I'd imagine we'd come out on top.
If I'm wrong, fair enough. It's how I saw the game, our pack got on top.'"
Mate, you're clutching at straws now (and using 'facts' you don't even know exist to boot! ). We were on about defence, and specifically Wigan's brutal defence in the Catalan game, forcing errors, not about metres gained. As well you know, thre are many reasons for metres gained, not least in Saints case Roby scooting from dummy half. I've yet to see (for example) Sam Tomkins throw the ball on the floor with a 2 man overlap because someone on the opposition scooted from dummy half earlier in the game. However, if you're reduced to moving the goalposts and using 'facts', whether you know them to be true or not, I suppose the argument is conceded so we'll move on.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Mate, you're clutching at straws now (and using 'facts' you don't even know exist to boot!
). We were on about defence, and specifically Wigan's brutal defence in the Catalan game, forcing errors, not about metres gained. As well you know, thre are many reasons for metres gained, not least in Saints case Roby scooting from dummy half. I've yet to see (for example) Sam Tomkins throw the ball on the floor with a 2 man overlap because someone on the opposition scooted from dummy half earlier in the game. However, if you're reduced to moving the goalposts and using 'facts', whether you know them to be true or not, I suppose the argument is conceded so we'll move on.'"
Brutal defence????Dont make me laugh.They only way wigan can hurt the opposition is in a 3 on 1 tackle ,with the third man attacking the knees or legs .Wigan dont know how to tackle 1 on 1 in the forwards and if you think that your pack are anywhere near as good as saints and wire you are deluded.
Take coley for instance ,an average prop who can be devastatingly brutal when hes third man into the tackle and the momentum has already been halted.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Brutal defence????Dont make me laugh.They only way wigan can hurt the opposition is in a 3 on 1 tackle ,with the third man attacking the knees or legs .Wigan dont know how to tackle 1 on 1 in the forwards and if you think that your pack are anywhere near as good as saints and wire you are deluded.
Take coley for instance ,an average prop who can be devastatingly brutal when hes third man into the tackle and the momentum has already been halted.'"
so saints win one game against a decent team and your pack is far superior and on a level with warrington? don't make me laugh, we've already proven this season on more than one occasion we can smash your pack to bits
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Brutal defence????Dont make me laugh.=#FF0000They only way wigan can hurt the opposition is in a 3 on 1 tackle ,with the third man attacking the knees or legs .Wigan dont know how to tackle 1 on 1 in the forwards and if you think that your pack are anywhere near as good as saints and wire you are deluded.
Take coley for instance ,an average prop who can be devastatingly brutal when hes third man into the tackle and the momentum has already been halted.'"
Tommy L on Maureen Farcervarloo at KR, Mickey Mac and Lockers on the two big Catalan props on Sunday, just three examples.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Brutal defence????Dont make me laugh.They only way wigan can hurt the opposition is in a 3 on 1 tackle ,with the third man attacking the knees or legs .Wigan dont know how to tackle 1 on 1 in the forwards and if you think that your pack are anywhere near as good as saints and wire you are deluded.
Take coley for instance ,an average prop who can be devastatingly brutal when hes third man into the tackle and the momentum has already been halted.'"
Great post. Your pen-name suggests you have a long history of overrating the toughness of St Helens players.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Brutal defence????Dont make me laugh.They only way wigan can hurt the opposition is in a 3 on 1 tackle ,with the third man attacking the knees or legs .Wigan dont know how to tackle 1 on 1 in the forwards and if you think that your pack are anywhere near as good as saints and wire you are deluded.
Take coley for instance ,an average prop who can be devastatingly brutal when hes third man into the tackle and the momentum has already been halted.'"
You could be in for a shock on Saturday
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Great post. Your pen-name suggests you have a long history of overrating the toughness of St Helens players.'"
I wondered how long it would take you to reply crunchie..Which bit of my post do you disagree with???
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"I wondered how long it would take you to reply crunchie..Which bit of my post do you disagree with???'"
It was never going to be very long, given that this is a Wigan forum and I'm a Wigan fan.
What's your excuse?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"You could be in for a shock on Saturday
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And so could you.I know its going to be one hard game which could go either way,but the way some of you are going on on here think that you only have to turn up to win.
Your coach has got you punching above your weight .but dont compare your pack of coley ,mcllorum,hansen,o'loghlin,prescott,lima and hoffman with graham,roby,lms,graham,soliola and puletua.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"And so could you.I know its going to be one hard game which could go either way,but the way some of you are going on on here think that you only have to turn up to win.
Your coach has got you punching above your weight .but dont compare your pack of coley ,mcllorum,hansen,o'loghlin,prescott,lima and hoffman with =#FF0000graham,roby,lms,=#FF0000graham,soliola and puletua.'"
If that's your pack you have already lost the game by default, by playing an unregistered player.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Christ on a bike, even the old ones are starting to raise their ugly heads again.
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Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy 11694 posts.Spends all his life behind a keyboard on a rugby league forum.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy 11694 posts.Spends all his life behind a keyboard on a rugby league forum.'"
Not doing so bad yourself are you, you little keyboard warrior.
There is a saints board for you to group hug on y'know. It is all fuzzy and warm. Off you go ...
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| Quote ="Sheila"Not doing so bad yourself are you, you little keyboard warrior.
There is a saints board for you to group hug on y'know. It is all fuzzy and warm. Off you go ...'"
Sorry shiela but its more fun on here sometimes.Why arent you on the NRL forum with the other convicts.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Sorry shiela but its more fun on here sometimes.Why arent you on the NRL forum with the other convicts.'"
Well seeing as you are a saints fan, wouldnt you be on there as well???
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"And so could you.I know its going to be one hard game which could go either way,but the way some of you are going on on here think that you only have to turn up to win.
Your coach has got you punching above your weight .but dont compare your pack of coley ,mcllorum,hansen,o'loghlin,prescott,lima and hoffman with graham,roby,lms,graham,soliola and puletua.'"
I actually think they compare quite nicely.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy 11694 posts.Spends all his life behind a keyboard on a rugby league forum.'"
Looks like that obsessed with Wigan nerve was well and truly pricked. Please keep posting your general lack of rugby knowledge rather than starting a fight you can't win, ta.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Mate, you're clutching at straws now (and using 'facts' you don't even know exist to boot!
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I know the stats exist, I just haven't seen them. And I think they would back up my point that the Saints pack was on top.
No idea what you're on about re: moving the goalposts and conceding arguments. This isn't a competition, it's a discussion forum. You said "You weren't better in the forwards", I disagreed and said I thought our pack got on top. Not sure what is so confusing about that.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"And so could you.I know its going to be one hard game which could go either way,but the way some of you are going on on here think that you only have to turn up to win.
Your coach has got you punching above your weight .but dont compare your pack of coley ,mcllorum,hansen,o'loghlin,prescott,lima and hoffman with graham,roby,lms,graham,soliola and puletua.'"
This is one of the best yet
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| What are they going to do next year when Graham & Graham have left?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What are they going to do next year when Graham & Graham have left?'"
Didn't know Graham had a twin, but I assume we'll play Perry and sign Laffranchi.
I'd say:
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LMS/Clough/Magennis/Moore?/Flannery/Flanagan/Dixon
looks as strong as anything knocking about in 2012, with Wigan losing Hoffman/Coley.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Looks like that obsessed with Wigan nerve was well and truly pricked. Please keep posting your general lack of rugby knowledge rather than [ustarting a fight you can't win[/u, ta.'"
Hang on, that's what his namesake was famous for doing.
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| Derby hostility!
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