It just will though, i normally sit on the side of optimism (maybe too much at times) but we are too easy to beat and i think teams realise that now. Our forward pack, despite their future potential, are just not up to it currently. Too young, too small. Admittedly this is not helping our attack but even when we do get into attacking positions we can't put a set move on to save our lives and rarely look threatning with very little strike potential.

Combine all this with selection decisions that just hurt my head to think about ie - our top player / creator being wasted for a full game at fullback where he looks uncomfortable while we struggle to put points on the board. Or better still a winger at fullback while our only fit and available fullback plays on the wing



despite all this i will be going tonight for the record as a season ticket holder, basically straight from work aswell. But by god i don't see how we win this game, let alone stay competitive. Im going in with the lowest of expectations and anything positive we do serve up will be a bonus.

Have you seen us play this year at all? We were sore when we were winning 7 in a row, this isn’t a couple of blips.

Despite the blip am sure all the Wigan players will be up for this so for me 10 point margin either way.Bookies only giving you 2 so even they expecting a close game.

Hastings at FB confirmed

Hastings at FB again? Christ almighty

Madness isn't it.

The lad is head and shoulders our best player. Not hard to work out that you don't further weaken the side by moving him too.

Absolutely. Just a baffling decision especially considering Hanley is a FB who is fit to play and Tommy/Smith aren’t exactly firing on all cylinders.

I’m not looking forward to this game being honest

If he doesn't play fb at the moment, who else goes there?

How many other changes do you make to accommodate one gap? (And i ask this as someone who hates when price makes 3 changes to fill one gap)

Hanley.

Hanley, Smith or anyone really.

I just can't buy into moving our best player and organiser and futher disrupting the side.

That first ten mins sums us up in attack. Plenty territory, garbage decision making and execution.

We are a fecking joke...

14 minutes gone and it's game over already.

I get we have injuries. I get there’s some key players missing but that’s no excuse for what’s being served up so far. We actually look even more lost in attack then we have done. Great opening few sets descends into this farce.

Seriously how much more does IL/KR have to see?

There is no point playing people like Gildart who won’t be here next year. I’ll accept defeats from honest mistakes from our lads who want to be here.

By that logic you’d also leave out Hastings?

I said today, 52-6 loss, that could end up being best case scenario...

Why not? Nothing against him but the end result is the same with or without him.

Mahoosive pile of dog e

I actually think at this moment in time we are the worst team in SL. I think any team would beat us and that includes Leigh.

I understand we have some injuries and suspensions but this has been coming all season. We flattered to deceive during those first 7 league games.

Someone said on here around three weeks ago that they could see us sliding into the bottom four. I can actually see this happening, it's a good job we've won as many points as we have or it would be 2006 all over again.

Wow, a player who can offload!

He’s our best player. But fair enough. I’ll be honest I can’t be bothered even debating. This performance is draining the life out of me

Don’t worry, Lam will coach that out of him

I feared the worst at one point (and it may still happen) but I honestly think we can take some heart from that. They’ve had a bit of luck along the way.

We’ve been lucky. Wire have bombed 3 or 4 tries so far. It should be a much bigger score line that it actually is