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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I think we should go well further than this. Let's ban singing, no wait let's go full snooker and ban anything that registers over a gentle whisper.
Anyway back OT...
I can actually sympathise somewhat with the Saints fans on this one. For me it comes down to having a bit of respect. Everyone hates us, Saints or Leeds, but in reality, it's those three sides who prop up every other club in SL.
Hull KR and plenty of the historically "smaller" sides, seem to go OTT when they beat the bigger sides. They spend longer, giving it to the away teams fans, than they do actually congratulating their own team.
They then yap on about it for far too long too. How many Wakey fans went to town last year because they beat us on an off day? We won the LLS and GF, they got relegated - yet they still talk about beating us, like it actually mattered. Hull KR did the same this time last year, what happened in the SL semi final? Didn't the Cas players once all gather around in front of the away end after winning a league game at the DW?
I've seen plenty of other celebrations from sides like they've just won a final, when in reality, they've one one game. Grinds my gears.'"
Of course fans of smaller clubs are going to celebrate and enjoy the moment.
Carrying on the way some of the Saints fans were is totally unacceptable and inexcusable.
It’s not isolated to Saints though, it is just another example of thankfully a small minority of fans that exist within most clubs who bring embarrassment on their clubs and the game.
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| Quote ="RobRiches"The highlight of a season for fans of teams like hull kr, Salford, Warrington etc is beating a big club. So of course their fans are going to celebrate. Fans of the opposing team should be able to be gracious'"
Truly spoken like someone who enjoys baiting the opposition.
"What? You're angry with me? All I've done is come onto your site repeatedly and do nothing but cause trouble. You're the one at fault for responding."
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| It was the referees fault
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| Quote ="RobRiches"The highlight of a season for fans of teams like hull kr, Salford, Warrington etc is beating a big club. So of course their fans are going to celebrate. Fans of the opposing team should be able to be gracious'"
Fans of the opposing team that were not gracious were your fellow fans.
I think we will see more of this when saints lose more games,bad losers even worse winners (some).
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| Quote ="Jason65"Fans of the opposing team that were not gracious were your fellow fans.
I think we will see more of this when saints lose more games,bad losers even worse winners (some).'"
They are getting as bad as Wire fans
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| [quIN[u:20j89647[u[u[del:20j89647N[/del:20j89647[/u
Not just ale though is it Stu?.
It's because of people like that I no longer go to away games
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Sounds like he’s gone then
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Sounds like he’s gone then'"
Not sure it does. I applaud them for taking a stand all our clubs should be dead against it as well.
I think he might go at the end of his contract but Saints seem to be able to fend off NRL interest better than anyone else
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| I wonder what Saints think to Delaney entertaining it? I presume he has done for this to come out and I also presume they've only found out about it after the event. Souths are bang out of order and the lack of respect from an NRL club towards the English game comes as absolutely no surprise but the player and his agent could have discussed it with Saints in the first instance.
On a side note, I don't think he should be looking to make that move just yet. He's got loads of potential but I don't think he's ready yet. Teams have worked out how to deal with him better now, after he made a big impact when he first broke in and he's still developing.
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| Hard to see the NRL doing much about it and I suspect Souths share that view. I don't know if there are any other legal routes Saints could go down but they likely wouldn't think it was worth it to go that far.
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| Quote ="bazdev"Not sure it does. I applaud them for taking a stand all our clubs should be dead against it as well.
I think he might go at the end of his contract but Saints seem to be able to fend off NRL interest better than anyone else'"
If we don’t do anything about the salary cap it is inevitable that this will happen on a more frequent basis. Delaney’s head will now have been turned.
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| This is exactly why I've been banging the drum about Saints not being the enemy. Rivals? 100% yes, but they aren't the enemy to us.
This is other side of success that successful RL sides have to deal with. It's almost inevitable that, after a period of success, the NRL will come knocking. Why wouldn't they too? They (the NRL) are obviously looking for talented lads, but also ones who've had a rugby education in an environment that's as close to the NRL as you can get. That's us and that'd Saints.
Lord knows the NRL have raided us & it isn't fun, or funny now it's happening to them.
The two clubs need to work closer imo. F the rest of SL and how they continually fail to invest or aspire for better. Politic if needs be. Absolutely run roughshod too. Just do whatever is best for Wigan and Saints as, ultimately, that's what's good for RL.
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| If the NRL clubs have scouts who know their stuff watching the Superleague you’d have to think a bid for Mikey Lewis won’t be far off. He is looking outstanding at the minute and is leagues above some guys holding down starting spots over there.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If the NRL clubs have scouts who know their stuff watching the Superleague you’d have to think a bid for Mikey Lewis won’t be far off. He is looking outstanding at the minute and is leagues above some guys holding down starting spots over there.'"
Possibly, but I'm also sure said scouts are also asking if he can do it in a GF. He lost his head a little a little in the CC Final last year etc. Have their been questions over his attitude too.
From a scouts POV, it's just more of a "safe bet" to pick the guys from the big clubs. Dodd did it in the WCC. Tomkins before him. I can name you plenty of more fancied forwards than Sutton etc. You make it at Wigan, or Saints then it's more than likely they'll have all the right attributes.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If the NRL clubs have scouts who know their stuff watching the Superleague you’d have to think a bid for Mikey Lewis won’t be far off. He is looking outstanding at the minute and is leagues above some guys holding down starting spots over there.'"
I know I'm in the minority but I don't think he could play for a top side and definitely not an NRL side. He plays for himself and his side would have to play with no structure
He has lots of highlight reel moments but as a team player not for me.
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| Harsh red card that, don’t think he could have pulled out and the tackle was mainly to the shoulder/chest, always looks worse when the player passes it and relaxes, yellow card would have been suffice imo. Should make the game interesting though.
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| Quote ="bazdev"I know I'm in the minority but I don't think he could play for a top side and definitely not an NRL side. He plays for himself and his side would have to play with no structure
He has lots of highlight reel moments but as a team player not for me.'"
I think he’s learning day by day tbh. He’s got a lot of responsibility in that KR side now and is thriving on it. I go back to comments I’ve made before about not every NRL player being superman and Lewis is easily better than a few starting currently.
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| That’s an even worse red card
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I think he’s learning day by day tbh. He’s got a lot of responsibility in that KR side now and is thriving on it. I go back to comments I’ve made before about not every NRL player being superman and Lewis is easily better than a few starting currently.'"
I don't see it but he may well prove me wrong, I think Dodd has a far better chance of cementing a spot there than if Lewis went.
Hes a great runner of the ball but thats it for me.
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| Was rumoured for a few weeks now. He’s been arguable the best English winger for the past few years and I’d say one of the best I’ve seen. I think who ever gets him (Catalan) will have a further few good years out of him.
I wonder if Makinson wanted to stay at saints or move on? Does throw some questions how they line up next year. Makinson has saved that edge leaking many try’s since Hurrell has been at centre. I think they’ll get rid of hurrell, ritson and Bennison to the wing and Blake and davies to centre? Or be in the market for a centre. Looks like it’s going to get worse before it gets better for saints
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| In my humble opinion Marshall is as good as Makinson,as he did show him a clean pair of heels 2 years ago in the CC semi.Just that Marshy hasnt been given the chance in a international yet and is prob too late now.
Anyway before before any one gets their knickers in a twist Makinson is a great player.
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| Quote ="WWste"Was rumoured for a few weeks now. He’s been arguable the best English winger for the past few years and I’d say one of the best I’ve seen. I think who ever gets him (Catalan) will have a further few good years out of him.
I wonder if Makinson wanted to stay at saints or move on? Does throw some questions how they line up next year. Makinson has saved that edge leaking many try’s since Hurrell has been at centre. I think they’ll get rid of hurrell, ritson and Bennison to the wing and Blake and davies to centre? Or be in the market for a centre. Looks like it’s going to get worse before it gets better for saints'"
You're forgetting Percival I think mate. If our first choice back line is Ritson, Blake, Davies, Bennison I think I will go and support Thatto Heath.
I think Hurrell and Blake will stay and we sign a new winger. Bennison is bang average and Ritson was a pointless signing as Wellens clearly doesn't rate him. Hopefully a new 1,6 or 7 too.
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