I think if they are going to get any game time it will be in the next few weeks. After Saturday we have a relatively "easier" set of fixtures bar Catalan at the end of May.

London and the Castleford game in particular may be a good time to have a look at Vaughan and also Stephens

I keep hearing talk of this "Golden Generation". Given that so many careers falter between Academy and first team, what makes everyone so sure these youngsters are going to make the grade? More specifically that they're going to make the grade at the level Saints would be looking for.

I think back to the number of players tipped for big things at Wigan and I'd estimate that no more than 1 in 4 (and probably much less than that) actually go on to have long Wigan careers. Even the ones that make it (like George Williams for example) go on to have careers away from the club.

Its a valid point that you make and there are certainly no guarantees. Will Roberts for example (scrum half) was looking really good and then did his cruciate ligament on loan at Swinton at 17 years of age. He has only just come back from that injury so it remains to be seen what impact it has had on him.

I can only speak from what I have seen watching a fair bit of them but its more that Mike Rush when interviewed said that he feels 4 or 5 of them won't just have solid SL careers but he described them as "game changers" so when your CEO and someone who to be fair has had a great pedigree in the youth side of rugby says that then it gives you extra confidence.

Just going back to this, I think Wellens made a mistake by not playing a couple of them against Hull. They had a lot of injuries and young lads playing and we were at home. That would have been a perfect game for the likes of Vaughan or Stephens.

However this was the first game after the Warrington defeat and I think Wellens wanted to get back on the horse and get a good win and didn't want to risk any changes.

Regarding the fixture list Stu we have only played two of our eight league fixtures at home. When we play London at home at the end of June we will have played 10 matches away and only three on home turf. If we are in contention at that point the LLS could be a forgone conclusion.

I've never really seen any explanation of why the fixture list has been so ridiculous. Did Wigan and Huddersfield ask for loads of away fixtures due to the shared facilities with football clubs? We usually have plenty of away games in early summer but it isn't the norm for early season. We also have the ridiculous scenario where we'll have played Castleford 4 times come June 14th (I know one was in the cup), yet we still won't have played a single fixture against Hull or Leeds and I know that sort of scenario is being played out across the league.

It seems to be a lot of pressure on those guys and, more importantly, pinning your hopes on an unknown quantity from the club's perspective. I guess it's one thing if you're a settled side and these young players are being drip fed into it but, with a major rebuild ahead, it could be a real gamble depending on which signings are made. The incomings would have to be proven quality and even then there are no guarantees.

A very risky strategy from Saints if they're counting on all these young players coming good but one that could pay off if it works out well.

Not sure why this is funny though TYG, i think it is a very valid point.

We lose very few games at home under Peet. In fact, looking back we have only lost 2 home games under Peet. The 2022 semi final vs. Leeds & 1 game early last season vs. Catalan.

I would be confident if we are still up there come the second half of the season, when we will play mostly home games.

I think to suggest that top spot could be a foregone conclusion by June is ridiculous.

It's so the football clubs can treat the pitch in their off season

That accounts for late May/June but we’ve been playing away most of the time since Feb, just as Huddersfield have been. It’s why that has been the case that I’m curious about, as well as the crazy situation of playing some clubs 3 times by June and other zero times. You struggle to read that much in to the league table because of it.

‘Could be’ being the important words. Let’s get to the end of June and have another discussion. It will be interesting to see if the bookies think it is ridiculous. One thing is for sure there aren’t many teams that will finish above Wigan if such a scenario arises.

Probably to give you time to sort your ST situation out

the way its going i'm surprised we've not partnered with the Co-op arena too

We’ll need until July 2034 for that.

I know you like to look on the bright side but no need for mindless optimism!

https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2024/05/03/s ... -fc-women/ Well this will put an end to the jibes about our pitch. We will have a state of the art PL quality pitch now. Good income stream commercially for the club too. Despite what people may think about women's football it is without doubt a rapidly growing sport. As a Utd fan though my only concern is a potential revamp of the stadium if they are including Liverpool crests etc all over. This will divide non Liverpool supporting football fans

https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2024/05/03/s ... -fc-women/ Well this will put an end to the jibes about our pitch. We will have a state of the art PL quality pitch now. Good income stream commercially for the club too. Despite what people may think about women's football it is without doubt a rapidly growing sport. As a Utd fan though my only concern is a potential revamp of the stadium if they are including Liverpool crests etc all over. This will divide non Liverpool supporting football fans

As long as the income from the women playing there outstrips the loss of income from the sale of potatoes it'll be a winner.

Saints Scousers, nothing new there. lol.

Stu that with the crests will only be temporary for when they're playing surely. If I have to rock up to Saints games and see that e all over the place I won't be happy.

Financially, I think this is a very important step for Saints.

The Man Utd badges are up permanently at Leigh so I'd guess same will be true at the Totally Boss La Stadium

Not sure, depends how much work is involved in removing/fitting. There is an overlap of both seasons from February to May and August to September so I don't know how it will work out.

Stu and YG, sorry if it’s been covered but what’s your thoughts on Dodd leaving?

A bit of a blow but nowhere near the loss Welsby would have been. Not in the same league as him as a talent.

As far as I am aware Derek doesn’t own the stadium it’s either partially owned or fully owned by the council. I don’t think Derek has any say what goes up