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| We win and the same old usual bitter wire fans are on moanung about the ref!! They were all glad to see Ganson get the game last week after he gifted them the game last week in the hope he would nail us for our 13 men in the tackle!!
Doesnt happen so he must be biased! Maybe we didnt slow the game up enough for Steve!! Anyway lets be honest anything other than a Catalans win at the anti wigan fools were always going to be in full voice!
Apparently some are getting off on the attendance!! Never mind let them get on with it! We looked fresh and has though we are still a major player!
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| Virtual Terrace has gone into meltdown.
Usual suspects frothing at the mouth. Beltin stuff !!
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Oh the irony in that, more like he went easy on you early in the game.
What about O'Loughlin when he went in with the knees on Blanch, Damien Blanch had to leave the field not long after with an injury. Its ironic because Ferriol was banned for this game due to using his knees in the tackle, Ganson never batted an eyelid when O'Loughlin did it.
Will O'Loughlin get a ban for the same offence as Ferriol ? You can bet your last £1 he won't.
Then we have Lima with his usual late in the tackle routine, can't remember which Catalan player picked up an injury but i'm fairly sure that late tackle caused an injury to a Catalan player, Lima has been warned and warned about his tackling technique but nothing ever gets done.'"
Read my response to you from the other thread! What Ferriol did and what Lockers has supposedly done are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things. No one else has mentioned Lockers knees so I'd guess you just an uneducated bitter, very poor troll.
Wigan were very good today and in no way did we need or get the help from Ganson. Our intensity in defence was what won us the game. In the 2nd half Catalan players were so tired they were in our defensive line for a number of tackles instead of tracking back. If we defend like that for the rest of the season we will be hard to beat, just got to work on our attack, which wasn't at its best.
Yet we still stuck 44 points on them!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"We win and the same old usual bitter wire fans are on moanung about the ref!! They were all glad to see Ganson get the game last week after he gifted them the game last week in the hope he would nail us for our 13 men in the tackle!!
Doesnt happen so he must be biased! Maybe we didnt slow the game up enough for Steve!! Anyway lets be honest anything other than a Catalans win at the anti wigan fools were always going to be in full voice!
Apparently some are getting off on the attendance!! Never mind let them get on with it! We looked fresh and has though we are still a major player!'"
I posted this on the Wire forum after their win against Huddersfield and I feel we were the same tonight, just not as good in attack as Warrington.
"Very impressed with the performance last night. Yes you can say the referee was poor (now I'm going to sound like Phil Clarke ) but that performance reminded me of Wigan last season, not a bad comparison considering we won the GF!
It was a very good performance and I don't think you are fully getting the plaudits it deserves. Yes Huddersfield we're poor but that was all down to Warrington and the intensity you came out with, not allowing them to play. This is reflected in the latter stages of the game when Huddersfield were knocking all on etc, all down to good work from Warrington in the 1st 20 minutes. As I said before similar to Wigan which cannot be a bad thing. You will find opposition fans putting the performance down to luck, reffing decision, Hudds not turning up, when in truth you were very good!"
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| was impressed by Ganson.
the amount of trying to milk penalties for lying on , by both sides, could have turned into "The Steve Ganson Show"........instead, he shouted at the player to stop moaning and get up and play the ball.......which made a flowing game.
only thing i wasnt impressed with, was him not having a word with the catalan player who went down holding his head like he had been hit by mike tyson after Coley slapped him ........looked like a wendy baller.......no place for it in Rugby League
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| Super game !!!!
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"Realised Wigan would win after 1st 5 mins. Corrupt cheats. Nothing new.'"
I can just see you going berserk in your living room, as usual more interested in Wigan losing than your own team winning - hence you come rushing onto the Wigan board to post, instead of your own.
Hope it's capped your weekend nicely.
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| I always say you know the refs had a good game when you dont notice him - you either notice him because hes giving too many penalties or you notice him because hes ignoring everything.
I didnt even realise Ganson was reffing today untill I read this thread.
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| Difference is, in the Wire-Huddersfield, Ganson was whistle happy, but for both sides, as for some reason, it seemed as if he was trying to lay down some kind of marker. Ganson was poor today and did possibly influence the outcome of the game. He denied Catalans what was perfectly fine try in a crucial part of the game. How you can say that O'Laughlin didn't lead with the knee's is ridiculous, as he clearly came in late with the knee's. Yes, perhaps Catalans' penalty count would have been higher, but so would yours.
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| Quote ="GouldyCrusader"Difference is, in the Wire-Huddersfield, Ganson was whistle happy, but for both sides, as for some reason, it seemed as if he was trying to lay down some kind of marker. Ganson was poor today =#800000and did possibly influence the outcome of the game. He denied Catalans what was perfectly fine try in a crucial part of the game. How you can say that O'Laughlin didn't lead with the knee's is ridiculous, as he clearly came in late with the knee's. Yes, perhaps Catalans' penalty count would have been higher, but so would yours.'"
Are you seriously saying that Ganson was worth 44 points today?
Which 'perfectly' good try was denied? The winger well offside and within 10m, or the forward pass one?
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| just watching the SL show, Trent not too impressed with Saint Steve today
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| Quote ="MattyB"Are you seriously saying that Ganson was worth 44 points today?
Which 'perfectly' good try was denied? The winger well offside and within 10m, or the forward pass one?
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I'm not saying Ganson was worth 44 points at all, but that try that he called a forward pass and was also going to call a double movement (neither would have been correct), would have brought Catalans to within 6 points. All I'm saying is, the decisions cost Catalans a lot more than they did you.
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| Wigan must have won again. Trolls are out in force!
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Wigan must have won again. Trolls are out in force!'"
Sadly, I can see this thread and maybe a couple of others being locked shortly.
All it's boiling down to is the usual wa***rs whining because today didn't go according to the script they'd fooled themselves into expecting.
If anyone is seriously saying that Wigan weren't 200% the better side today, and that the referee was the difference, they are so stupid or warped, or both, that they're not even worth entertaining.
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| Quote ="GouldyCrusader"I'm not saying Ganson was worth 44 points at all, but that try that he called a forward pass and was also going to call a double movement (neither would have been correct), would have brought Catalans to within 6 points. All I'm saying is, the decisions cost Catalans a lot more than they did you.'"
But, it was forward. (Just cause Wiggy said it didn't doesn't make it so, until the third camera angle when he agreed it was).
It was as forward as Lima's at Wembley.
Had it been a legitimate pass then I agree it wasn't a double movement.
Catalans got away with as much (if not more) than Wigan did tonight.
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| It's now half time at the replay, and here's my assessment thus far:
First Catalan try denied perfectly fairly. Stacul was well offside. No issue with that decision at all. Even the King of the Wig-Wearing Muppets admitted that "to the letter of the law" (:lolicon_smile.gif it wasn't a try.
Not long after that we got the ball-strip on George Carmont, the elbow to O'Loughlin's head and the flop by Henderson on Pat Richards - all unpunished by Ganson.
The second French 'try' was clearly forward. Even Hemmings, despite his embarrassingly obvious disappointment, admitted it (though the third showing which he mentioned didn't show that it was any more forward than the first one did, so I wonder if someone had a word in his ear - i.e. "Try not to make your prejudice too obvious, you f*****g clown!"icon_wink.gif
Just before half-time we had the swinging arm from Sa. Which went unpunished.
At this stage it appears that the official is actually doing a lot more for Catalan than he is for Wigan.
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| Second half.
The Catalan player fumbles the ball over the dead-ball line. No controversy. Drop-out.
Wigan's next try is chalked off. No real complaint, though it could have been deemed that both the Dragon's players who were 'impeded' actually tacked the wrong men (one of them certainly did). It's consistent with the general clamping down on the use of dummy runners that seems to be happening whenever the video ref is present.
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| Now close to the end of the game, and the referee finally makes two mistakes that favour Wigan. The penalty for the ball-steal and the forward pass to O'Carroll, which goes unnoticed. Yet at this stage, the score is 38-0. I'm sure those decisions made a big, big difference.
Anyway, a couple of minutes later Wigan are penalised ridiculously for driving a man into touch. Even Warrington employee Brian Carney admits that the ref got it wrong.
I am still waiting for the deluge of pro-Wigan decisions that took this game away unfairly from the Dragons.
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| Now it's over, a few final thoughts.
The commentary was the least professional I've heard in the Sky era. The Club Call is little more than a gimmick. It is certainly not so big an issue that it's more important than what's happening on the field of play. You could have been forgiven at some points in the second half for thinking there wasn't a match on.
As for Stevo's main reason why the French lost so heavily - they were tired. Perhaps they ought to take that up with the Catalan fitness conditioner. Or maybe even Trent Robinson.
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"just watching the SL show, Trent not too impressed with Saint Steve today
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To be fair you can understand his frustration. Trent did not complain about individual decisions costing them a result, he clearly admits that we were the better side. He does however moan about the state of the ruck. Now I prefer a flowing game that we had today but Gansons 'performance' could not have been more inconsistant with his 'performance' at Warrington last week. How can Trent coach his players to control the ruck when he has no idea what kind of decisions the ref is going to make. Ganson has gone from one extreme to another within a week IMO.
Trent will probably be fined for his actions but I totally agree with him on this one. It won't change as long as that idiot is in charge of the refs either.
Just look to the NRL (as you do) and the refs are far from perfect, they make many errors in judgement just as everyone does in that split second. BUT, the refs are always constant in their control of the ruck, players seem to know what is acceptable and the game is allowed to flow. I honestly couldn't care if the tacklers had to get straigh off the man, or the tacklers could hold the attacker down for 10 seconds before getting off.... all I ask for is decisions which do not change from week to week, it makes a joke of our great game.
As an example of what needs to be done, just look at the obstruction calls this season. Pretty much every single try with an attacked running into an active defender has been disallowed. Everyone is now clear where to stand on the decision and there can be no complaints because it has been that way all season. Now I do have a slight problem with this because had Richards been stopped before the try line after the 'obstruction' then surely Ganson would not have given the pen, surely that kind of obstruction in the middle of the field would go unoticed, even Eddie pointed one out in normal play and it was not seen by Ganson, BUT, had it resulted in a try then it would have been disallowed and resulted in the penalty. At least with this decision we all know the rule though and all of those leading to tries have been chalked off and at least this shows consistancy for once, I wish we could see it across the board though.
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| The anti-Wigan hype has now reached ludicrous proportions.
We are being criticised because a referee made the correct decisions (to Wigan's benefit, though he also ignored many infringements committed by Catalans) but probably wouldn't have made the correct decisions if they hadn't been for Wigan's benefit and therefore to be fair he should have got the decisions wrong.
You couldn't make it up. You really couldn't.
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| Quote ="Deano G"The anti-Wigan hype has now reached ludicrous proportions.
We are being criticised because a referee made the correct decisions (to Wigan's benefit, though he also ignored many infringements committed by Catalans) but probably wouldn't have made the correct decisions if they hadn't been for Wigan's benefit and therefore to be fair he should have got the decisions wrong.
[uYou couldn't make it up. You really couldn't.[/u
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Hang on ... they did. What they didn't bargain for was two TV replays the same night, which showed how one-sided the refereeing display actually wasn't.
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| Yes Wigan appear to get the rub of the green sometimes and I aint a lover of Ganson but lets face facts Wigan played far better than Catalan and you only need to look at the final score to see who dominated the game.
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| Quote ="Deano G"The anti-Wigan hype has now reached ludicrous proportions.
We are being criticised because a referee made the correct decisions (to Wigan's benefit, though he also ignored many infringements committed by Catalans) but probably wouldn't have made the correct decisions if they hadn't been for Wigan's benefit and therefore to be fair he should have got the decisions wrong.
You couldn't make it up. You really couldn't.
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| Quote ="Odem"I love being hated.'"
Hated, Adored but Never Ignored!
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