God knows what we are going to do with these training facilities...

See previous responses, lack of quote removes context- I was in a rush. Was addressing club commitment to SW.

Of which I believe there is a lot. As you've kindly edited out.

apologies, message now understood.
on another note, do people feel this is a satisfactory announcement

I really don't know which parallel universe some people live in who think Hock will be back at Wigan once Wane "goes", but they might want to read that statement from Wigan again. Hock won't be anywhere near Wigan while Lenagan is in charge.

However the universe does sound like a 60's acid den where people are protected from reality, so it can't be all bad.

What a brilliant job by leneghan, not caving in to player power. It's a shame that he has treated you this way after you have stood by him.

"Gareth Hock, we're having a party, bring your dummy and bring your charlie"

Hope you give him loads.

Wigan have made the best of a bad situation with Hock, it's not the best outcome as that would have been Hock playing for Wigan. However given the circumstances they have managed to offload a bad asset in pretty quick time. If they sacked him, he could go where he liked. If they did not find him a club, his wages would count against Wigan and hurt the squad for many years whilst he sat on his backside getting money for nothing.

Hock has probably ended up in the worse place he could be, little chance of winning anything, playing for a team that he has had to take as an emergency last resort. If you listen to his interview, when he is asked about being excited to be building up Widnes to be a big club like Wigan, he talks about what his mates have told him. This to me indicates that he has had to take what has been given to him at the end, rather than making a serious choice having discussed all possible options.

Also those hoping he will return to Wigan once Wane is gone.
1. On the VT he is asked about returning to Wigan, he says no.
2. Wane has not published the statement, IL has, so he will need to mend bridges, not just wait for Wane to depart
3. Wane won the league last year, so far he has one of the 3 trophies that MM won and only had half the time given to MM. Who is to say that Wane is performing badly, given there are only 3 trophies to get he's hardly a poor coach. So if Hock is waiting for him to go, he could be waiting some time.

Not a great day for Wigan, a worse day for Hock, Widnes ???????? could be good, could be a bad idea to have all mates playing together and socialising together.

Ultimately, IL's comments about Hock messing Maguire about as well as Wane nullify all the statements to the effect that Wane is somehow in the wrong. Clearly, Hock has an issue with coaches - i.e. those in charge of imposing discipline on him. For that reason alone, I strongly doubt he will ever play for Wigan again. IL's own comments - about Hock letting the club down - then seem to reinforce this.

Those insisting that it's a waiting game for Wane to get his marching orders, sound increasingly like Gareth's mates, parroting what the player himself hopes for rather than what he seriously expects.

Can someone please PM me the rumour that everyone seems to know apart from me.

Any chance of a PM?

Am rather curious myself..

Aby chance of a pm?

another pm request please.

Pm for me to please I love a good conspiracy theory!

Another PM request please.

I'll happily retract any criticism of Hock if you can shed some light on the situation.

Can someone please pm me, I'd love to know the truth. Cheers

There's optimism for you.

So shocking it can't be read out in public.

I mean, what's suspicious about that picture?

Can I have a PM I have heard something myself and just want to know its the same

Could I add my name to the PM request please.

Any chance of a PM also please.

Can people stop sending me PM's please, I'm not interested in the truth.

I wouldn't mind a pm please.

Nothing here yet...

I'll have one too please

Funny how those 'in the know' don't seem to be very forthcoming with the PMs.

Ask yourself why.