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| The first half was as flat as I've seen Saints on both sides of the ball for a long while. Even against Wire in the cup we didn't see that lack of intensity. If Huddersfield had Marsters alongside Swift I reckon they've been another score or two clear but Bibby had an absolute nightmare. As usual with Saints, they show fight and desire and managed to hang on and turn it but they won't be able to afford too many performances like that against Wigan, Wire, Catalans etc. If they play like that away at HKR next week they'll get 30 points put on them.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The first half was as flat as I've seen Saints on both sides of the ball for a long while. Even against Wire in the cup we didn't see that lack of intensity. If Huddersfield had Marsters alongside Swift I reckon they've been another score or two clear but Bibby had an absolute nightmare. As usual with Saints, they show fight and desire and managed to hang on and turn it but they won't be able to afford too many performances like that against Wigan, Wire, Catalans etc. If they play like that away at HKR next week they'll get 30 points put on them.'"
Ahahahahaha
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Ahahahahaha'"
The big girls back I see.
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| I pay no mind to a guy like Robbie, he’s clearly a deeply unhappy individual, with not a fat lot going on in his life. I always feel pitty for him tbh.
I can’t lie though, I pay attention to Yellow Giraffe finding the courage to put an emoji against my post but not to comment. It’s been a while! Come in YG, get yourself involved. What did I say there which is wrong? Saints were so flat in that first half and lose comfortably next week if they turn up in similar shape. Tonight surely only adds weight to that opinion, no?
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| Lewis Dodd to Souths…..shows how small the pool of quality halves has become in the NRL.
Good on him though for backing himself.
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| I had to read that twice. Lewis Dodd from Sts?
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| Can see us getting pumped at HKR next week too tbf
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| Quote ="jonh"Lewis Dodd to Souths…..shows how small the pool of quality halves has become in the NRL.
Good on him though for backing himself.'"
He'll back in 12 months no where near good enough
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| I back Dodd to do well over there. The fact that our attack has been exactly the same since he’s been out shows he’s not the problem. His kicking is usually fairly on point, he’s just being instructed to basically do nothing other than give it to the opposition in the corner with them. I think he’s a very talented player and will do well under a better coaching structure.
He looked like he was about to be genuinely world class before his injury. He’s certainly lost a bit of pace since that which has affected his threat, but he’s been much better this year I think. His defence is very very good as well
Hope he does well anyway!
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| Quote ="The Reaper"I back Dodd to do well over there. The fact that our attack has been exactly the same since he’s been out shows he’s not the problem. His kicking is usually fairly on point, he’s just being instructed to basically do nothing other than give it to the opposition in the corner with them. I think he’s a very talented player and will do well under a better coaching structure.
He looked like he was about to be genuinely world class before his injury. He’s certainly lost a bit of pace since that which has affected his threat, but he’s been much better this year I think. His defence is very very good as well
Hope he does well anyway!'"
If people thought he looked on his way to being ‘world class’ when he was in his first 12-18 months in the Saints first team, I think that sort of highlights the issues he’s faced since, in that expectation was clearly too high. He looked like he could be a very good player but World Class? Not for me. There have always been too many weaknesses and not enough stand out strengths to ever think he could hit those heights.
World class half backs can pretty much do it all, yet even in the early days for Dodd, there wasn’t much of a passing game, much of a kicking game etc. His big breakthrough season was 2021 and he got 7 assists all year. He was playing in a fabulous team and played a real part in the success but I think we can file him under a long list of players ‘some’ Saints fans billed as being the best in their position in the country, when it probably wasn’t the case. It was the days of the old ‘Wigan wouldn’t get a player in a combined 17’ claims.
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| I agree with Stu/The Reaper, I think the way Dodd plays fits with the style of play in the NRL. It will be interesting to see what Saints do to replace him. It is not easy when you lose homegrown talent.
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| There’s a lot of things hanging over his head at the minute. Is he the same player after the injury. Is he being contained by Wellens or has he lost all confidence and reliant on Lomax and Welsby too much. I think a move away from Saints may do him the world of good. I’d back him going over but I don’t think he has enough to cut it over I’d say the same about Smith too
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I pay no mind to a guy like Robbie, he’s clearly a deeply unhappy individual, with not a fat lot going on in his life. I always feel pitty for him tbh.
I can’t lie though, I pay attention to Yellow Giraffe finding the courage to put an emoji against my post but not to comment. It’s been a while! Come in YG, get yourself involved. What did I say there which is wrong? Saints were so flat in that first half and lose comfortably next week if they turn up in similar shape. Tonight surely only adds weight to that opinion, no?'"
Lmao. That put down is like as old as the internet. You made.an embarassing post that I laughed at. No need to get personal. Whenever anyone gets personal on the internet it’s because they got embarassed and have no come back. I expect that from the likes of zig and Jason. But not you. You’re better than that. Chin up champ!
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| It’s not personal, it’s truthful. You have a canny knack of posting crap and when you are challenged you crawl into your little shell rather than back up your idiotic comments.
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Lmao. That put down is like as old as the internet. You made.an embarassing post that I laughed at. No need to get personal. Whenever anyone gets personal on the internet it’s because they got embarassed and have no come back. I expect that from the likes of zig and Jason. But not you. You’re better than that. Chin up champ!'"
All nonsense aside, if a grown man spends his time on rugby league forums simply looking for a rise from people, including from fans of the club he (pretends he) supports, I can only assume that in your personal life there are issues. Years ago I used to go to Latics games with a group of people and one guy would do the same and more often than not to his own supporters and when all came to all he had a breakdown. I’m not joking here btw, I hope you’re ok because the signs are worrying.
BTW-my post was spot on! If Saints play as they did in the first half at HKR next week, they’ll end up on the wrong side of a hiding, just as we did the other night. The way HKR played on Friday only adds weight to that opinion.
Not like you care what happens to Saints mind.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"All nonsense aside, if a grown man spends his time on rugby league forums simply looking for a rise from people, including from fans of the club he (pretends he) supports, I can only assume that in your personal life there are issues. Years ago I used to go to Latics games with a group of people and one guy would do the same and more often than not to his own supporters and when all came to all he had a breakdown. I’m not joking here btw, I hope you’re ok because the signs are worrying.
BTW-my post was spot on! If Saints play as they did in the first half at HKR next week, they’ll end up on the wrong side of a hiding, just as we did the other night. The way HKR played on Friday only adds weight to that opinion.
Not like you care what happens to Saints mind.'"
What I don't get about this guy is the pretence. Everyone knows what he is so why keep up the pretence? It's the behaviour of someone who is genuinely mentally ill (I'm not being insulting here btw). If he's lonely, come clean and start some meaningful conversations instead of repeatedly posting puerile nonsense. Surely no one but a child can gain anything from the type of ridiculous stuff he posts and he doesn't strike me as being a child. Maybe he is. Who knows?
The joke here is he could actually add to the conversation and give a different perspective but instead seems hell bent on some ludicrous "points scoring" that only actually exists in his own mind. You can't points score if no one takes you seriously!
Sad really.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"What I don't get about this guy is the pretence. Everyone knows what he is so why keep up the pretence? It's the behaviour of someone who is genuinely mentally ill (I'm not being insulting here btw). If he's lonely, come clean and start some meaningful conversations instead of repeatedly posting puerile nonsense. Surely no one but a child can gain anything from the type of ridiculous stuff he posts and he doesn't strike me as being a child. Maybe he is. Who knows?
The joke here is he could actually add to the conversation and give a different perspective but instead seems hell bent on some ludicrous "points scoring" that only actually exists in his own mind. You can't points score if no one takes you seriously!
Sad really.'"
If everybody just blocked him and stopped replying giving him the attention he craves he'd soon disappear
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| Quote ="bazdev"If everybody just blocked him and stopped replying giving him the attention he craves he'd soon disappear'"
And soon reappear with a different username
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| Quote ="bazdev"If everybody just blocked him and stopped replying giving him the attention he craves he'd soon disappear'"
The mods could just ban him from the forum...
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"And soon reappear with a different username
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A more appropriate one like tit?
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| Quote ="Zig"A more appropriate one like tit?'"
Can't be having that, I like tits
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| Remember after Good Friday and all the Wigan fans were like “not bothered. Nothing to fear with regards this saints team”. Fast forward a few weeks and the entire league is saying the same about Wigan lmao
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Remember after Good Friday and all the Wigan fans were like “not bothered. Nothing to fear with regards this saints team”. Fast forward a few weeks and the entire league is saying the same about Wigan lmao'"
Remember, remember the fifth of November! Let’s see what happens come the end of the season. I will have you a 10p
bet that Wigan go further in the Challenge Cup than Saints and double or nothing that Wigan go further in the playoffs, what do you say?
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| NK - It won't let me quote you for some reason.
You said nothing wrong at all mate - just the irony of you suggesting we might get a pasting at Hull KR and then Wigan going on to get one did make me chuckle.
As for Saints, we were utterly woeful against Huddersfield for the first half. Marginally better in the 2nd but not good enough at all. Hull KR would win comforably if we replicate that 1st half.
Our attack is horrible to watch at the minute. It's overly structured and overly premeditated. There is very little wiggle room for players playing with their eyes up and playing what they see. It's extremely dull. Luckily we concede on average 8 points a game so 2 tries is all we need to win matches. Not very entertaining but that's the fact of the matter currently.
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| YG- I am having the same issue. Regarding the Saints attack to be fair to Wello, this is a trait that started before he became head coach. It works fine if you can keep the opposition in check but when you get a Warrington situation there is no answer to the problem. For what it is worth I think Saints will beat HKR, it was their cup final last week.
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