It has been re designed as another poster has mentioned but the original link to it doesn't work anymore. You need to search for "redvee" again and save the new link. Don't worry though, it is just as inviting to "foreigners" as it always was.

It went home on 70 minutes and hasn't been seen since.

What has Dodd done so badly wrong in the last 2 weeks to go from being back to his best and Saints fans celebrating rumours he's staying on, to now being to blame for the attacking issues and even an ex player in Sculthorpe calling him out? That has been some turnaround.

I'll await an update on the progress he's made from the bloke who runs Red Vee TV, who said in pre season that he should be twice the player Harry Smith is.

Christ alive I remember that - truly crossed the threshold of insanity there.

He followed it up with a beauty of an opinion last week, prior to the Warrington game, when he said that at a push Ashton and King would make a combined side. The other bloke (with the glasses, seems a sensible chap) enquired about Williams and his response was 'for who?'



Lomax has been a cracking player and at his best was possibly a better all round player than Williams (although it was extremely tight IMO) but he's not even close now and Dodd has never hit George Williams level. I've mentioned Dodd many times and constantly ask the question of 'what is his strength?' Great passing game-No, Great kicking game-No, Organiser-Not really, Great running game-No, Support runner-Not really, Great defender-He's ok. Harry Smith has some limitations also but he knows his game and has nailed on strengths that everyone can see.

So now that King has left Wigan he would get into the Saints side?

I honestly think the hype around Dodd is from a couple of years back before he got injured on GF.
He'd come in as a young lad with a fair bit of pace for a half but crucially playing behind by a country mile the best pack in the league. He looks like he's finally getting a bit of that pace back but that pack while still very good is nowhere near as dominant as it was a few seasons back, getting Paasi back mid season will be a huge boost if he's fully recovered but I think we can safely say we don't dread the sight of them anymore.

Probably speaking a bit out of school so to.speak here, but when we did the Rads podcast we had half an hour chatting with Matty Peet
He asked us out the blue about the 2 Saints lads and did we know them as he'd been interviewed by them before the GF game
My lad said he didnt know them etc and Peet went quiet for a few moments before just saying a few things that weren't complimentary, not nasty, just it seemed that he didn't enjoy it/thought it was balanced
And that's what I've been saying to 3 or 4 of my Saints mates for the last 18months or so, they've loved in this Saints first/win at all costs/better than everyone else world etc that any deviance must be a conspiracy or a deliberate attempt to sabotage Saints
And rather than focus on what's wrong with themselves they're preoccupied blaming everyone and everything for their losses etc.

Anyway
On the Dodd front, I had the same conversation with one of them midweek, and we both agreed, his kicking is getting worse, his running game has gone backwards, he doesn't organise, he doesn't create/passing game and my final.comment was that half the time I do watch them I'm half an hour in before realising he's even playing.
To rank him anywhere near Williams is a joke

Saying that I've argued with enough Wigan fans about Harry Smith over the last couple of years who will do anything to criticise him because they wrote him off 2 years ago so would rather double down than admit they're wrong

Argued with a mate in a pub last June ish about him and he laughed when I said he was in top 3 half backs in the country
End of conversation I said, if Harry goes on to have 15 great games end of the season ,kicks all his goals, wins us a GF and gets picked for England in the test series and plays well will he be good enough? Reply = No
So basically just said there you go, never be good enough so you'll just slag him off for slagging off sake for the next 5 years then and walked off

Seen him 10/15 times since - Not a word !!!!!!

He was outstanding in the academy from memory and came in with a lot of hype. As you say, he was behind a great pack and he was full of confidence and looked sharp but that injury really does seem to have set him back. I think it's unlikely that his pace will ever get back to what it was before his injury, so you have to develop other parts of your game and so far, I don't see that he's managed it. In saying that, he did start the season well and I am surprised so much criticism has come his way, so quickly from the Saints supporters on the back of a couple of iffy games. It doesn't help when you have a guy most of the Saints fan base will be watching online, saying he should be twice the player than the current England number 7 and man of the series against Tonga is though. He doesn't need that pressure being lumped on.

The guy makes no apologies for how Saints focussed Red Vee TV is and I can at least admire his honesty but without blowing smoke up your lad and his mates podcast, I'd much rather have something like they're doing associated with the club. They have a laugh, stick the odd friendly dig in to Saints or whoever but are totally balanced and don't just focus on Wigan. I actually feel for one of the two blokes who usually does The RVTV stuff (Kev I think his name is) because he does seem pretty balanced but the other guy can't help himself and it comes as no surprise when he mentions he's a football fan because he's taken it down the path of channels like Arsenal Fan TV, where it's total one eyed drivel.

To provide a bit of balance I actually find them quite entertaining and they've built up a decent little fan channel there which RL could probably do more of. Content that is a little tribalistic and provocative is probably like marmite but it attracts some attention and creates some talking points.

To be fair, they've done well as you say. I do think fan channels like that is something Rugby League needs more of, to build exposure but I think you can be entertaining and a bit more balanced than the main guy is. You choose your model I suppose and take what comes with that. They'll get pelters when they lose and views will be well down when they win and that is the nature of the beast.

I watch bits of the Leeds one as well (The Lot Pod) and that is another that is totally focussed on just their own club but that will again just come down to the mentality of the people running it. The Superleague Raw Podcast is run by Wire fans but is one that is focussed on the game and not just the club and to me, it's the one that does the best job.

This week's favourite bit of RedVee-ism is that it's no coincidence that players get banned when they seriously injure Wigan players as if there's some kind of shenanigans going on! If only we could get a few more season ending injuries hey? We'd be well set for the title with all those poor players getting banned

https://www.sthelens.gov.uk/article/107 ... f-all-time James Roby to be honoured by St Helens Council. Whilst I have no problem with James being recognised and honoured but the paper headline goes a bit too far. Roby is not Saints ‘greatest of all time’, Alex Murphy was streets ahead of him.

https://www.sthelens.gov.uk/article/107 ... f-all-time James Roby to be honoured by St Helens Council. Whilst I have no problem with James being recognised and honoured but the paper headline goes a bit too far. Roby is not Saints ‘greatest of all time’, Alex Murphy was streets ahead of him.

The other bloke is Dave Lyon he's a Everton fan

I thought you said he liked football Nicky!

How do you know? You never saw Murphy play

Interesting to see Dodd and Clark dropped for Saints tonight.

Who are you? Mystic Meg?

Do you know me? By the way do you think that Roby is Saints greatest ever? If so, why? I think we should have a debate.

Lol. Why are you putting words in my mouth? I’m just saying you never saw Murphy play. No need to start deflecting because you know I’m right lmao

What are you on about putting words in your mouth? I’ve asked you a question that’s all! I would have thought that was an easy one for you to answer, especially given that you know that I have never seen Murphy play and yet you have never met me.

Enjoyable game last night - Saints poor with the ball and vulnerable out wide but still a great defensive side in the middle of the field.

Did leave me wondering though whether Liam Moore actually knows what a chargedown is? He didn't restart the set after Huddersfield charged down the initial drop goal attempt - brought back memories of Wigan Challenge cup semi final last year.

Two try’s one off an interception and one was a barge over which if Connor was paying attention would have been harder to score you’d imagine. They look to be reliant on putting small kick in to score. Saints just seem predictable. I will applaud there intensity that last 20 they turned it on. Huddersfield really looked good was impressed with their. Kick chase. They should have targeted that hurrell Makinson side more hurrell look like he was running in treacle at times

Big pressure on their forwards to maintain their standards now that Walmsley is out for a decent spell. Paasi isn't too far away apparently, they could seriously do with him hitting the ground running.