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| Quote ="Cruncher"I still don't see why Orford at 31 would be a poor option and Long at 31 would have been a good one.'"
Well as I have posted 5,000 times Long would only be a good signing if Myler was also signed.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Especially when Long will be 33 in September of this year when Orford will only turn 32 at the end of April 2010.'"
However I would guess that he is much cheaper, isnt on the quota and is established in SL.
Just because Orford looks good in the NRL, doesnt mean he is going to tear up SL, you would have thought King and Monaghan would have done that fo Warrington.
I would have still prefared Orford but would guess at the moment he would go to Wigan or Warrington in front of Hull if he comes to SL.
Think Long will be a good signing for Hull for a couple of years.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Tommy Smith and Sam are all scrum halves, we need someone to attack the line at pace, come up with a chip over and score or something magic. Sam was miles better 2nd half on friday at first reciever organising the attack but it meant our other scrum half was stuck outwide with not a clue what to do, this is were we need someone to come in with a spark and touch of magic. We havnt replaced Trent and until we do we wont get near a trophy.'"
Tommy is clearly a number 9
Smith won't be here next season
Sam is a running half, a number 6, some who runs off the back of a 1st receiver, he will only truly benefit when we get in a good number 7.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Well as I have posted 5,000 times Long would only be a good signing if Myler was also signed.'"
Well let's be realistic. We were never going to sign them both and still expect to keep Sam Tomkins. We'd have had four first-team half-backs.
What would be the point?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Tommy is clearly a number 9
Smith won't be here next season
Sam is a running half, a number 6, some who runs off the back of a 1st receiver, he will only truly benefit when we get in a good number 7.'"
TL wont get near the 9 shirt with Piggy and McIlloram here, Smith wont be here thank god, hes the exact opposite of what we had in Trent. I personally see Tomkins as a 7, he looks better at first reciever organising and starting the attack and supporting any breaks. Hes a brilliant finisher, if Trent was still here it would be a dream partnership.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Well let's be realistic. We were never going to sign them both and still expect to keep Sam Tomkins. We'd have had four first-team half-backs.
What would be the point?'"
Tommy to 9
Smith out of the club.
Please don't talk to me about realistic when there's people in here talking about signing Lockyer.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"TL wont get near the 9 shirt with Piggy and McIlloram here, Smith wont be here thank god, hes the exact opposite of what we had in Trent. I personally see Tomkins as a 7, he looks better at first reciever organising and starting the attack and supporting any breaks. Hes a brilliant finisher, if Trent was still here it would be a dream partnership.'"
I fear McC will be the one who suffers.
IL has stated he's on the look out for a new HB.
In a interview with Tommy he says his future will be as a 9.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I fear McC will be the one who suffers.
IL has stated he's on the look out for a new HB.
In a interview with Tommy he says his future will be as a 9.'"
I'd like to see McIlorum given a shot in the second row or even at loose forward. I've said that for a while because i just can't see us giving him the time needed to settle in at hooker.
He's tough as they come and would rattle people playing in the back row. He runs the ball in pretty strongly aswell and the fact that his passing game from dummy half isn't always the best wouldn't matter.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Tommy to 9
Smith out of the club.
Please don't talk to me about realistic when there's people in here talking about signing Lockyer.'"
Tommy - Sam - Myler - Long.
I am going to keep talking about realism (or lack of it), because those are the four halfbacks we'd finish up with if we'd followed your plan - and it wouldn't make any sense.
Tommy can play 9, but to move him there permanently would mean losing Mc or Riddell. The former is playing too well, the latter is on a lengthy contract.
Much less realistic, I'd say, than someone expressing hope that Lockyer might come over for a final payday.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Tommy - Sam - Myler - Long.
I am going to keep talking about realism (or lack of it), because those are the four halfbacks we'd finish up with if we'd followed your plan - and it wouldn't make any sense.
Tommy can play 9, but to move him there permanently would mean losing Mc or Riddell. The former is playing too well, the latter is on a lengthy contract.
Much less realistic, I'd say, than someone expressing hope that Lockyer might come over for a final payday.'"
Tommy to 9, to interchange with Riddell, how many times has IL stated that he's looking for a HB?
Tommy has stated his future is as a 9.
Remember how Leeds rotated 3 halves?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'd like to see McIlorum given a shot in the second row or even at loose forward. I've said that for a while because i just can't see us giving him the time needed to settle in at hooker.
He's tough as they come and would rattle people playing in the back row. He runs the ball in pretty strongly aswell and the fact that his passing game from dummy half isn't always the best wouldn't matter.'"
Hes only about 12-13 stone. got the aggresion but not the size.
perhaps in the ? not sure TBH
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Hes only about 12-13 stone. got the aggresion but not the size.
perhaps in the centres? not sure TBH'"
I just wish we never signed Riddell. His cap space and quota would come in nicely when putting cash together for a new prop and HB.
Would sooner see a new prop and HB come into the team with Tommy and McM interchanging at 9.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Hes only about 12-13 stone. got the aggresion but not the size.
perhaps in the centres? not sure TBH'"
He's big enough because he's tough enough.
Never anything like a centre in a million years.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I just wish we never signed Riddell. His cap space and quota would come in nicely when putting cash together for a new prop and HB.
Would sooner see a new prop and HB come into the team with Tommy and McM interchanging at 9.'"
Agreed with that statement. I don't see why McIlorum should be axed (If he is) because out of the two he has been the better player and I feel it would be a waste of effort in developing the lad from a young age.
Thomas Leuluai and Michael McIlorum have both outplayed Riddell at hooker IMO and deserve their places in the squad above Riddell.
I don't see where a new halfback fits in as I have mentioned on another thread. But all will become clear I guess...
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| I am guessing we may do something similar next season interchanging hafl-backs throughout the game, it could work, or it might not, what it will give us is options which we need plenty of as we often lack a plan B.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Agreed with that statement. I don't see why McIlorum should be axed (If he is) because out of the two he has been the better player and I feel it would be a waste of effort in developing the lad from a young age.
Thomas Leuluai and Michael McIlorum have both outplayed Riddell at hooker IMO and deserve their places in the squad above Riddell.
I don't see where a new halfback fits in as I have mentioned on another thread. But all will become clear I guess...'"
Either McIlorum will go on loan or Riddell is homesick and goes home
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| Another great player escapes Wigan's grasp (again)!
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Another great player escapes Wigan's grasp (again)!'"
You've heard Lockyer's signed for another year with the Broncos as well.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"You've heard Lockyer's signed for another year with the Broncos as well.
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Has he I misssed that one.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Has he
I misssed that one.'"
Because he hasn't.
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| Quote ="RB"Because he hasn't.'"
Oh right I was all confused then.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"You've heard Lockyer's signed for another year with the Broncos as well.
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We would have signed him but Kyle said he didn't think Lockyer would have kept his boots sufficiently clean.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'd like to see McIlorum given a shot in the second row or even at loose forward. I've said that for a while because i just can't see us giving him the time needed to settle in at hooker.
He's tough as they come and would rattle people playing in the back row. He runs the ball in pretty strongly aswell and the fact that his passing game from dummy half isn't always the best wouldn't matter.'"
I like that idea, stick him second row on the right, sort of Mick Cassidy player, not scared in the slightest to tackle and hit hard.
So who have we got left to pick from?
Dobson
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Myler
Anasta?
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Either McIlorum will go on loan or Riddell is homesick and goes home'"
Hopefully the latter!
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Either McIlorum will go on loan or Riddell is homesick and goes home'"
Hopefully the latter! If leneghan was lining up a swap deal for riddell for a class half back next season while in aus it would be the smartest transfer option hed ever done!
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