I like you Stu but you were well AND TRULY beaten today.

The only time I thought you had a chance today was the disallowed try. I sat there excited at that stage that it was a 2 point game.

Apart from that mate......you cannot seriously believe you were in it?!

We were second best for a lot of the game but still created more clear chances that with more composure sees us win the game.

Most of your fans on here to be fair are referencing them too. You scrambled superbly to prevent a couple no question but we need to improve on our support as with so many clean line breaks we should’ve converted more.

You didn’t have the energy because that first 15 mins in the second half we absolutely obliterated you in field position. That period you went from carrying the ball to the half way line, then struggling to get to your 40 then pushed back to the 30. As a Wigan fan it was great to see we could be disciplined like that, we’ve lacked it for such a long time. Singleton turned the game in your favour for the next 20, making the unfortunate high shot and giving you field position. Up to that point, it was a perfect start to the second half.

Sorry mate. I think you're talking complete and utter .

If we play until June you still dont win

I've said it all week and day BTW that today decides nothing.

We will need to beat Saints once if not twice to take the trophies home. We proved today that we can.

I said we were second best for a lot of the game. How is that complete and utter rubbish? Or do you think you dominated for 80 mins?

Secondly did we or did we not create more clear line breaks?

That’s all I’ve said.

Wigan deserved the win but that’s a strange take. We were a dropped ball over the line from a 2 point game and bombed several clean breaks.

+1 That game was a credit to the sport. I want to see that kind of contest every week.

But Stu, winning is all about getting over the whitewash. Wigan were good value for their win today. I thought that Wigan won the arm wrestle and controlled Saints for long periods. The only try Saints scored was from a kick which tells you something about Wigan’s defence. One noticeable thing is that Saints lack pace and that should be of concern going forward. I thought it was a cracking game where 34 players gave it everything.

Wigan are more fluent and threatening without Cust.

Correct.

Or as Stu wants us to believe .... Wigan lost and Saints won.

Brilliant day, the DW gets some stick but on a sunny Good Friday with 24,000 in its super league at its very best. Fantastic Atmosphere.

Some rambling thoughts on the game -

This will forever in my mind be known as the “Joe Shorrocks game”. This is what most clubs miss out on. A local lad, academy product who was willing to bust a gut to get the job done for his club. He kept it simple with the ball and his try savers were great.

Peet got the team spot on, I think O’Neill would have struggled with the intensity for 80 minutes and Powell is such a good defender and bossed the ruck.

Harry Smith is one of our best players, class today. Was worried that over the next few months he’d start getting stick as he’s under huge pressure but he was massive today. His defence has improved.

Smithies, Havard, Byrne, - for the last few years these lads have struggled against, being young rookies but this felt like a coming of age game. They really stood up as legit experienced superleague players and got the best of Saints pack.

Mike Cooper had his best game in a Wigan shirt hope he’s not too long. (Singo’s lazy arm after he’d been on a minute nearly cost us).

We were out Saintsing Saints at times. The 10 minutes before Kings try. We line speeding them to death and they could barely make 30m a set then the broke.

King, Miski’s yardage carries were excellent and helped the pack massively.

On Saints thought Hurrell was absolutely immense with ball in hand, game changer.

Roby is the SL GOAT in my mind but he showed his age today. He was well off the pace.

Great day for the club.

Agreed. I was chatting to someone tonight who said, I went to the game, I really should make the effort to go more often, it was great. I imagine I'm not the only one to have heard such talk.

From the sounds of it a couple of Saints fans got thrown out today for fighting for acting like d@ickheads

Answer me something honestly Stu; when saints win a game by tenacious scrambling defence and clinically taking their chances when they come, do you say the other team should have won by 10?

Wigan won by being the better side today. Simple as that. Saying if Farrell doesn't bat the ball down or French doesn't pull off a try saver or that Knowles was good enough to score and the game would have been different is being disingenuous. All those things DID happen because Wigan were good enough to make them happen or Saints weren't good enough to stop them happening.

The "if this would have happened instead of what actually happened, it would have had a different result" is the worst argument in sport. You're better than that.

Fabulous occasion today felt like the 1990s all over again and a credit to the sport.
Interested in the narrative that we had two chances and took them and Saints bombed 5 or something. Firstly, when has opposition misfortune been acknowledged by Sts in recent narrow squeak years? I would argue KPP dropping the kick he won when it was easier to score and an unmarked Marshall dropping a quick fire French pass were spurned opportunities too before we get on to the defensive efforts of French, Shorrocks x2 and Farrell as well as the blatantly forward pass for the second half Welsby “opportunity”

Sts have been and still are a champion side but Wigan were better and wanted it more today. Simples & Bravo

When people talk about Saints bombing chances, they’re ignoring the fact they don’t have the pace to score from deep. A chance is only a chance if you actually have a chance of scoring but Saints are so slow across the board. They’re a fantastic side and you need to be squeaky clean against them but they’ll only beat you by scoring from within your 20. If you can win the territory battle, you’re most of the way there against them. We’ve learned that lesson this past 14 months and are now sticking in games and being patient. They’ll get you sometimes, like that game in Newcastle but they won’t run away from you as long as you decide to stick in the battle with them. They’re still the favourites for the major trophies this year IMO but we’ve worked out a way of beating them this past season and a bit and I think we can all be confident now that they’re not going to trample over us, like they did in 2021.

If KPP would have caught that kick and passed to Ellis, if Marshall would have caught that French pass and raced to the line and if Wardle would have caught that French pass we’d have won by 24!

Love the saints fans defence online it’s either - “rubbish game and Wigan were slightly less rubbish”, “refs fault didn’t get singleton off and didn’t get loads of 6 agains”. “we take our chances and we win easy” or “if Walmsley and Batch play we win easy”


They can’t seem to comprehend that the super duper world champs who beat Penrith in a friendly in front of 10k in the preseason challenge lost to Joe Shorrocks playing 6.


How many Saints players would make it into Wigans 17? Maybe Welsby on the bench ?

Just as well they didn't, I had Wigan to win by 8.

People clearly being selective with what they are reading from my posts.

“Wigan had a good game plan, Peet did his homework. They played at a good intensity. We were second best for a lot of the game”

Not sure why the above comments are being ignored.

All I pointed out was the number of clean line breaks we made. Bearing in mind we’ve been largely awful since the WCC then I was surprised. I can’t recall the last time we broke an opponents line so often.

If Warrington have half those chances next week then they will be good enough to convert them.

I said last night that Shorrocks was outstanding. Smithies was also the best forward on the pitch.

With a full team out it could well be Wigan and Warrington in the Grand Final this year.

This is the end of an era for Saints and we are seeing an ageing team devoid of pace and a couple of greats not performing.

It’s Sport, it happens. I’m a Utd fan so I’ve seen it happen with my own football team.

Congratulations to Wigan. They defended well and had the better performers on the day.

a bit cheaky but it did make me chuckle!

I thought at halftime that if you scored first in the second half that you would kick on and win.

We played it really well in the first 10 to 15 minutes of the second half and once King scored I was genuinely relaxed in that we would go on and win. Our defence and work rate was first class. If Field had played behind that pack yesterday he would have ripped holes in your defence. If Lomax had played behind that pack he would have done likewise. Hopefully you have an ageing pack whilst ours is coming of age.

Peet and his coaching team did an excellent job in preparation for yesterday.

I still think that Saints are the team to beat this season however, if we play you again with the same intensity we will have a good chance of turning you over particularly if Field is the 13.

I agree with your comment re Wire. It’ll be very tough next week without Cust, Cooper and Field with potentially Singleton and Farrell joining them on the sidelines.

What did Farrell do?

Add King to that list. Is he able to play against his parent club

Wouldn't be calling it a friendly if you had won there would you??

Kaide Ellis had a top game and is definitely edging towards the wanting to keep him list. I’m hoping we get to see him start now Cooper is injured and maybe see him get extended minutes. He looks ready for a bit more responsibility.