Please answer my question FTV!

not really,

Leeds have 4 sin-binnings and 5 match bans,

3 of these straight away can be taken away as they were Abletts and he wasnt binned so 4 sin-binnings has led to 2 match bans which isnt really different to anyone else

If you don't have an argument about it, then why join in an argument about it. We have a Leeds fan having a go at our discipline!! When yours is just as bad as ours!

Sorry, though it was rhetorical.

I don't think the Leeds fans are claiming anything about discipline other than challenging the pious reaction of a few who claim they wouldn't want Wigan to win games through spoiling, whilst Wigan concede more penalties than anyone.

That was my take on it anyway, could be wrong.

except with fewer penalties, fewer sinbinnings,and not having the most penalised player in the league you're right


Oh and as i have said, that table is from over a month ago it may look a little different when it is updated to include a further wigan sinbinning.

Ah well if you beat Hull KR maybe we can be undisciplined again together 1 more time!

no, you are right,

It was a clear question to a specific statement that wigan 'wouldnt want to win like that'

I simply asked how that could be the case when Wigans penalty count is the highest in the league, Joel Tomkins is the most penalised player in the league, and it would be naive to pretend at least some of those penalties werent deliberate attempts to seek advantage and therefore comparable with Mcguire

I made no reference to Wigans overall discipline was any better or worse than Leeds and i even pointed out a page ago that the fair-play index was irrelevant and a month out of date

Bring it on...!!!

If theyre owt like the Cup Quarter and last night night then it should be a humdinger.

Need to get past a confident Hull KR though first.

Ha ha! can you see what you have done here? You are the ones kicking off about Leeds disipline re mcguire! and yours is worse than ours infact it's the worst in the league! that's the hypocrisy you are demonstrating.

That's why you are been taken to task on it.

people have been bleeting about karma?? Well Wigan just got a nice dose last night!

You need to learn to read a few posts back before commenting, check the fair play index

Wrong - it was TA having a go at our disciplinary record!

I've nowhere said ours is good, or acceptable.

BUT yours is as bad, if not worse than ours love.

its going to be quite funny to see the backtracking when the updated fair-play index is released,

No backtracking from me. Our disciplines awful. Will you admit the same?

no, i wasnt, it has been pointed out to you by two separate people now

How has this thread got to 15 pages????

not really, its no different to where it has been for the last three or four years, I dont think your discipline is particularly awful either,

God i just read the whole of this, shocking posts off some, truly shocking.
Here's some points of me

1st Hope Danny is ok
2nd Wigan were 14 nil up yet you blame a Danny Mac tackle with 5 seconds to go ?
3rd Every player, even if he knew the consequences would be a one match ban, would do the same if it meant his team won, i have no doubt whatsoever whether it's right or wrong is another discussion.
4th Richards missed 3 kicks
5th Sam cheated so why all the righteous indignation over MacGuire
6th Joel should have been sent off but wasn't, is this not fair to Leeds who may well have gone on to score a try with wigan having one less man.
7th Sinfield you are taking liberties with the 'only the captain speaks to the ref' privilege
8th It was a cracking game for the neutral (yes i'm a wire fan but i was neutral)

Lastly, people need to calm down, we have some serious anger issues, both teams are still in it, at least you weren't as sh*te as us.

Why didn't Richards kick inside to Tomkins?

Maybe he thought that as Donald was committed to tackling him, he wouldn't be able to change direction at speed?

Cant see it, even if he has to kick with his left/outside of his right to get it in field, its worth a punt, then get brought back for the "penalty". Sam was in acres of space.

man of steel? he certainly doesnt have balls of steel. Bottler! Dont really have time for either team, but its amazing how all you pie eaters went ballistic when Mason stood on poor stueys hand but what Tomkins did wasnt much different, will you be screaming for a 3 match ban? Course noy. Like Mason he is just a cheap shot merchant, not for the first time either. Hope Hull Kr smash you, you little girls!

By 'hand' can we assume you mean achilles?

Well he is from Huddersfield

Listen to this guy, he could teach a lot of people who have posted on this thread a few things about human beings and humanity. Much of this thread seems to point to a vicious nature in fans, and clear and unreasonable prejudice. I just wonder whether it is the disappointment of losing when you were not supposed to that has brought out this backlash? Pretty embarrassing to read some of your comments. I know I shouldn't have bothered .........

Yes Sir