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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I think we should petition Mick Hogan and IL for this vital fact to be included in the player's bios, and maybe an overall league table at the club!
Get on it guys!'"
My money's on Walker! Not sure why I think that. Should I be right I think we'd all have to put it down to pure genius on my part.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"My money's on Walker! Not sure why I think that. Should I be right I think we'd all have to put it down to pure genius on my part.'"
Indeed, you're really going out on a limb there, with so many players to choose from and no guidance from anybody whatsoever. I can't believe something so vital has gone unanswered for so long
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Indeed, you're really going out on a limb there, with so many players to choose from and no guidance from anybody whatsoever. I can't believe something so vital has gone unanswered for so long'"
Well I am known for being brave. In fact Nathan Brown is going to use me as an enforcer on this board as he's getting no protection from the nasty mods!
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| As an aside to this, there was a poster on here who was putting it around that Feka had the lowest body fat in the Wigan squad. I think it was someone called Pimps or Pants or something like that....
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"My money's on Walker! Not sure why I think that. Should I be right I think we'd all have to put it down to pure genius on my part.'"
Your 100% wrong, I have it on good authority that its Feka.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Your 100% wrong, I have it on good authority that its Feka.
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See above. There was a poster, Pumps I think his name was, who got there before you!
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"I wouldnt bother Rogues, i pointed out his celebrations when Sam and Carmont scored earlier in the thread but these people choose too see and hear what the want to, Pryce will never do right in their eyes!'"
And in the same way people won't have a bad word said about someone just because he wears the cherry and white.
I've watched Karl since junior days at Odsal. I've watched him since and formulated MY OWN OPINION of him which is that i think he's attitude wastes his talent. He's never progressed further than "having potential." I always hope he plays well but IN MY OPINION we could do better.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"=#FF0000Well it's good of you to come and admit he was solid, rather than the original non existant.
I really do think you're jumping the gun and worrying unduly about giving chances to the likes of Charnley - who is 18 years old (19 in June) and will get many opportunites.
I'd be more worried that Josh's birthday is on the 26th June, i.e. 26/06/2010, which if you watched Dr Who this weekend, should be spookily worrying to you!
Does anybody know how his body fat compares to other squad members?'"
I'm also willing to admit that I probably didn't give him as much of a clean sheet as he deserved. I didn't really take into consideration it was his first super league game for nearly a year, however is solid going to be good enough against widnes?
I still stand by other things I said though which is fair enough IMO, to say he had a poor game was wrong. Charnley will get many oppertunities but I think he should play next week.
Pryce really does have to kick start soon though, he has been here a long time now and needs to show some kind of form, I hope he does I really do. If he plays like we know he has the potential to do, he could be a star for England but I have never seen him working his socks off or playing with some real passion. These are some of the things that people on here said they wanted the team to do.
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| Quote ="Memony"After reading some of the nonsense here, I can't help but think what happened to the 'clean-slate' that the boo boys were giving the players under Madge, or is it only certain players who are getting the benefit of this?'"
The answer would seem to be yes.
But...criticism of Pryce this season actually started in pre-season with one poster in particular criticizing Karl Pryce because he had not been working hard enough in training. Apparently during an exercise routine at Haigh Hall Karl Pryce came next to last in a run involving all of the players and as a result he was deemed to be lazy which i found quite ridiculous.
I thought Pryce did ok in the Huddersfield game and took his opportunity when it presented itself, i do hope that the try will help to develop his confidence and that he does get another chance against Widnes at the weekend.
Its time to get behind all the players....including Karl Pryce.
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| Quote ="dany1979"The answer would seem to be yes.
But...criticism of Pryce this season actually started in pre-season with one poster in particular criticizing Karl Pryce because he had not been working hard enough in training. Apparently during an exercise routine at Haigh Hall Karl Pryce came next to last in a run involving all of the players and as a result he was deemed to be lazy which i found quite ridiculous.
I thought Pryce did ok in the Huddersfield game and took his opportunity when it presented itself, i do hope that the try will help to develop his confidence and that he does get another chance against Widnes at the weekend.
Its time to get behind all the players....including Karl Pryce.'"
I am always wary of calls to get behind the players (as opposed to the team, an important difference) because there are some who think the players can do no wrong so make this call regardless of how good or bad they are playing individually or as a team. I think it's much better to take each player as they come if we want to talk individual performances and call a spade a spade.
EDIT I shoud also add come game day I don't care who is on the pitch they always have my full support whatever my opinions are of them in general.
With that in mind I agree with what you are saying about Pryce. I can't see what he did wrong given his experience (i.e lack of) and he took his try well.
I also remember the pre-season run post and while you can't say it was a positive thing to be trailing in last it was no reason to assume that was the end of his Wigan career.
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| In my opinion Pryce didnt do much wrong in the hudds match and made the most of chances when they arose, it seems that whenever he makes a mistake (as every player in the team does) it is emphasised by the fans, surely this cant do his confidence much good. Sometimes he does seem uninterested and a lazy but i suspect he has lost a lot of confidence and enthusiasm due to numerous aspects (i.e. injuries, fans). I really hope he gets a good run of games, and does play well as he has all the attributes to be a brilliant player, i just wish he would realise that.
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| The way we as fans treat certain players is a disgrace.the best players in the world play with complete confidence in their own abilty which allows them to sometimes try the things that other players wouldn't dare,this is what puts them at the top of their game.i'm not saying that price could be one of the best but at the rate people slag him on here I'm suprised the bloke can even catch a ball.get behind your team and leave the slagging for the stains
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| Whichever pricks boo'ed when he name was read out tonight, I hope that hat-trick was a bitter pill to swallow. Idiots.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Whichever pricks boo'ed when he name was read out tonight, I hope that hat-trick was a bitter pill to swallow. Idiots.'"
I bet they wouldn`t have the bolloxs to come on here and admit they were wrong, ar$$ holes the lot of them.
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| Quote ="mattmanche5ter"The way we as fans treat certain players is a disgrace.the best players in the world play with complete confidence in their own abilty which allows them to sometimes try the things that other players wouldn't dare,this is what puts them at the top of their game.i'm not saying that price could be one of the best but at the rate people slag him on here I'm suprised the bloke can even catch a ball.get behind your team and leave the slagging for the stains'"
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Whichever pricks boo'ed when he name was read out tonight, I hope that hat-trick was a bitter pill to swallow. Idiots.'"
Agreed, but it wasn't as many as usual, and Pryce got quite a bit of encouragement from the fans tonight. I thought he had a decent game, better than last week, but still work in progress. He deserves to keep his place,
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| Quote ="mattmanche5ter"The way we as fans treat certain players is a disgrace.the best players in the world play with complete confidence in their own abilty which allows them to sometimes try the things that other players wouldn't dare,this is what puts them at the top of their game.i'm not saying that price could be one of the best but at the rate people slag him on here I'm suprised the bloke can even catch a ball.get behind your team and leave the slagging for the stains'"
Spot on. Reading many of these comments, doesn't look interested, lazy etc reminds me of the same things being said about Amos last year. If the bloke gets a chance to have a decent run in the team, 10 games or so judge him then.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Agreed, but it wasn't as many as usual, and Pryce got quite a bit of encouragement from the fans tonight. I thought he had a decent game, better than last week, but still work in progress. He deserves to keep his place,'"
Until Amos comes back at least. He's more than pulled his weight in his two starts so far. Be interesting to know what the coach thinks of his contributions.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Whichever pricks boo'ed when he name was read out tonight, I hope that hat-trick was a bitter pill to swallow. Idiots.'"
Agreed. He was impressive tonight.
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| I thought he had a decent game tonight.
I couldnt believe the lad behind me tonight who kept slagging him off. It was disgraceful the way Mathers was ruined by our fans abuse and it looks like Pryce is the next victim.
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"I thought he had a decent game tonight.
I couldnt believe the lad behind me tonight who kept slagging him off. It was disgraceful the way Mathers was ruined by our fans abuse and it looks like Pryce is the next victim.'"
they had a point with mathers
seriously though its something i've never understood with wigan fans..then they cry blue murder when players like mathers shows them the bird.
i was never a higham fan but i always backed the lad when he was playing just as much as the rest.
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| I thought Donkey had a decent game tonight.
Solid in defence (couple of good takes from kicks), broke a tackle, made some yards and scored a hat-trick.
Couldn't really fault him at all today and I hope he continues to improve. With some more work, he could become a useful player for Wigan.
Well played Karl.
(And before anyone whines about me referring to him as "Donkey", that name will stick as far as I'm concerned - Just like Pat got the nickname of "shït-boy" during his first season, and still gets referred to as that in an ironic way)
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"(And before anyone whines about me referring to him as "Donkey", that name will stick as far as I'm concerned - Just like Pat got the nickname of "shït-boy" during his first season, and still gets referred to as that in an ironic way)'"
You're a muppet.
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| Quote ="CAM."You're a muppet.'"
I second that.
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| I agree with CAM
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