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| Quote ="MattyB"No necessarily, a consistent top 2 placing should see crowds increase.'"
Dare I say a more attractive style of rugby might help to?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Dare I say a more attractive style of rugby might help to?'"
Normally goes hand in hand!!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Normally goes hand in hand!!'"
But not always. Arsenal under George Graham. Huddersfield have hardly been the best team to watch this year either.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"But not always. Arsenal under George Graham. Huddersfield have hardly been the best team to watch this year either.'"
Who's talking about Foozeball? Boring game at it's best anyway!
Re: Huddersfield, maybe not as entertaining as 'The S' but my god, it's worked for them this year. Very big ask, but there's no reason why they can't do the double this year. That alone at Wigan would see our crowds increase.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Who's talking about Foozeball? Boring game at it's best anyway!'"
Quite obviously I am.
Quote ="MattyB"Re: Huddersfield, maybe not as entertaining as 'The S' but my god, it's worked for them this year. Very big ask, but there's no reason why they can't do the double this year. That alone at Wigan would see our crowds increase.'"
Think they'll end up empty handed myself.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Quite obviously I am.'"
Well they got crowds of over 40,000 each Saturday and were very successful, so....????
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| Quote ="MattyB"Well they got crowds of over 40,000 each Saturday and were very successful, so....????'"
But were notoriously boring to watch.
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| But we're playing pretty expansive Rugby (compared to last few years) yet we've lost 11 league games. Not really much of an improvement.
Give me a 12-2 win over a 28-32 loss anyday!
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| Quote ="MattyB"But we're playing pretty expansive Rugby (compared to last few years) yet we've lost 11 league games. Not really much of an improvement.
Give me a 12-2 win over a 28-32 loss anyday!'"
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| I've just seen this.
Wigan Athletic debt £66.4 million.
But they are nowhere near the worst.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/03/english-premier-league-debt[/url
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| The accounts make it clear that Wigan, who expect to continue to make losses, would not be solvent without Whelan's financial backing.
Tick tock tick tock
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"The accounts make it clear that Wigan, who expect to continue to make losses, would not be solvent without Whelan's financial backing.
Tick tock tick tock
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've just seen this.
Wigan Athletic debt £66.4 million.
But they are nowhere near the worst.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/03/english-premier-league-debt[/url'"
Interesting reading. Amazing they still made a loss of £11m in the year they sold Palacios for a profit of c£14m. Indicates their trading loss is more around the £25m mark.
People who say Whelan is only in it for the money couldn't be more wrong judging by that.
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| The question is how long can Whelan afford to fund these losses with his dwindling fortune. I've heard is that he is going to push the club into debt further by selling the stadium to the club.
In reality though who would want to buy a club that will probably be relegated this year with huge debts. They need to keep hold of their premiership place to hold any chance of survival and someone to takeover them.
Maybe Whelan taking them to the top could turn out to be a poisoned chalice, it could actually contribute to them falling out of existance.
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| The most damning statistic is the wages as proportion of turnover at 89%.
That as a business is unsustainable.
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| Quote ="ChrisPie2"The question is how long can Whelan afford to fund these losses with his dwindling fortune. I've heard is that he is going to push the club into debt further by selling the stadium to the club.
In reality though who would want to buy a club that will probably be relegated this year with huge debts. They need to keep hold of their premiership place to hold any chance of survival and someone to takeover them.
Maybe Whelan taking them to the top could turn out to be a poisoned chalice, it could actually contribute to them falling out of existance.'"
Nailed on in my book
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've just seen this.
Wigan Athletic debt £66.4 million.
But they are nowhere near the worst.'"
Worst or not, that's a scary figure.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Interesting reading. Amazing they still made a loss of £11m in the year they sold Palacios for a profit of c£14m. Indicates their trading loss is more around the £25m mark.
People who say Whelan is only in it for the money couldn't be more wrong judging by that.'"
Palacios, Heskey, Valencia and the rest who have been sold since Steve Bruce left are not included in those accounts. It's common knowledge that Whelan has been looking for a buyer but that's more to do with him wanting to wind down and there being no successor to him.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"People who say Whelan is only in it for the money couldn't be more wrong judging by that.'"
Big rumour from my Latics mates is that Whelan is looking for a buyer.
He's made it known that he'd be open to offers, but no one has come forward as of yet.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Big rumour from my Latics mates is that Whelan is looking for a buyer.
He's made it known that he'd be open to offers, but no one has come forward as of yet.'"
It's no bloody wonder no ones come forward.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Big rumour from my Latics mates is that Whelan is looking for a buyer.
He's made it known that he'd be open to offers, but no one has come forward as of yet.'"
TBH I heard that some time ago and it comes as no real surprise to me or to anyone for that matter.
He realises his ship is sinking - a fact which even the most hardcore Latics fans have realised - and is getting into his lifeboat.
I have a feeling it won't be too distant in the future that DW buys back Wigan RL.
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| It would be nice of Whelan were so desperate he had to sell the stadium to Lenegan, then we could turn it into are true home and we could dictate to the Latics when they play there league 1 matches.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"TBH I heard that some time ago and it comes as no real surprise to me or to anyone for that matter.
He realises his ship is sinking - a fact which even the most hardcore Latics fans have realised - and is getting into his lifeboat.
I have a feeling it won't be too distant in the future that DW buys back Wigan RL.'"
Most of my Latics mates are lifers and pine for the days when they went on day trips to Bournemouth and Walsall.
They are as pished off as Wigan fans by the newcomers. One of the lads used to stand next to me at Central Park having been to Springfield Park the day before.
God help us if he gets his hands on us again!
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"It would be nice of Whelan were so desperate he had to sell the stadium to Lenegan, then we could turn it into are true home and we could dictate to the Latics when they play there league 1 matches.'"
That isn't going to happen.
[urlhttp://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8708_5384578,00.html[/url
"From August 1 this ground is going to be called the DW Stadium and I am placing the ownership into the hands of Wigan Athletic. That will take place over the next four to six weeks."
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That isn't going to happen.
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"From August 1 this ground is going to be called the DW Stadium and I am placing the ownership into the hands of Wigan Athletic. That will take place over the next four to six weeks."'"
So it isn't a true groundshare Rogues?
Genuinely thought that was set in stone from the off with the council.
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