Sorry, have I missed something?



(Wasn't at the game yesterday)

So JD manages to knock a 20st prop off his feet with a high shot and gets nothing? Double standards me thinks.

One more vote till we get 100...

Mathers got sin binned for taking out Halley with a kind of trip/kick.

We'll get far more than 100.

Again, I'm feeling a bit tight seeing a poll with over 100 people and 80-odd percent of supporters calling for him to be dropped. Still, Noble selecting him is going to keep him open to justified criticism. He isn't a scape goat nor is he just going through a 'poor patch'. He is a consistantly below average player who has a become a risk in a crucial and key position on the pitch. Supporters reactions to him haven't been brought on by off the field antics, it's what we've seen ON the field and patience has clearly worn thin.

Sorry, but that's the bottom line at the moment.

Why? Its not under 9's rugby league. Mathers simply isnt performing and the only times he has looked good in a Wigan shirt is against National League oppostion. We cannot afford to piggy back him any longer.

This is a good point. I wouldn't have played him today, personally. But Noble could argue he was giving him the benefit of the doubt. The upside is there's no possible way he can select him next week. Surely?

With the best will in the world, Mathers has had his chance for the time being. Now he should be given his chance to play in the reserves and see if he can get the basics right.

Even those who feel sorry for him - and I'm one - must admit that yesterday will have done him no good whatsoever. Further humiliations of that sort will finish his career early.

drop him. Amos to fb and Ainscough on the wing

Who keeps voting to keep him in the team.

Or are there a lot of votes from Hull ?

If I was a Hull fan I would want him to play.

Worst full-back in Wigan's history. End of story. And as for the coach who keeps picking him.....

Mathers is a gutless, dirty, gobby sod and out of his depth at this level. Good at waving his arms and applauding the fans though



Yesterday there was a first-half chip kick that bounced mid-way between him and the onrushing Wakey player - and he completely bottled it. Not for the first time, either.

Lord knows what Gold Coast were thinking of when offering him a chance in the NRL. And Leeds got rid for a very good reason. He is bloody hopeless.

Brian Noble talks about duty of care. Does he exercise duty of care with Mathers?

Agreed. Now we have to hope that Noble was adopting that view and that the result will be Mathers nowhere near the squad for Friday.

Can people please stop having a go at the lad, to be honest on sunday he was better than a lot of other people. He didnt drop a ball(more than can be said for 50% of the team.)

He wasnt helped by a poor display by Roberts and the two tries they scored, he did everything he could have (which is more than can be said about Roberts!!!)

As for the sin binning, well he had no choice, leave him and wakey would have surely scored and sealed the game, or take him out and have a chance of winning.

He was the only player wanting to form the scrum in the dying seconds, and the look of dissapointment and anger, proved to me that he is commited to Wigan.

The guy needs confidence and if people stop ironically cheering him and complaining, then maybe he would do better.

sorry Mrs. Mathers

Beat me to it Dawn!

Yes, he should be dropped, he's a liability in defence and offers absoulutely nothing in attack. Useless.

Let's stop comparing him with the rest of the team and ignore supporters reactions & let's look at his overall game.

His attacking play in non-existant. Last season he had ONE try to his name and ONE try assist. For a fullback that is absolutely appauling. He doesn't get involved with link up play nor does he track up the middle, failing to hang off players shoulders in support as ALL fullbacks should.

His defence since arriving at the club has again been appauling. He struggles with one on one tackles and makes very poor decisions when it comes to the crunch. His red card against King and the yellow card yesterday is clear evidence. How many times last year did we see players literally walk through him with alot of ease?

His positional play is probably the worst. He is too indecisive when it comes to attacking kicks. He hasn't the confidence to attack the ball nor does he have the correct judgement of when to leave it. His handling is often very nervy and it's usual for him to juggle with the ball when trying to return or control an attacking kick.

It's nothing personal, it's just we can't afford to play him. He currently isn't good enough and is a massive weakness in the side. He might be a nice lad, enthusiastic and low in confidence...But sorry, none of that is worth risking results.

Should Mathers be dropped for Hull?

Yes

Yes

He would be put in the reserves and if he still was cack id offer him to every SL team whether it be loan or perminant. Time to get ruthless, deserve your place or send him packing, but that goes for Coley, Phelps or everyone else too.

What he said.............

I see your point, but i feel its a little harsh complaining about him and 131 people saying he is awful, when yesterday he was better than a few players. Thats my only point.

My guess would be the women that fancy him. Or Noble. Or the "seals" that are only too happy to clap and cheer anything they hear aboutt the club.