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| Quote ="wiggywigwig"How many players have Wigan stood by in the past for on/off field indiscretions like drugs and violence so why should bateman be any different. '"
The difference in this case (allegedly) is that it was a problem between team mates, which can affect team spirit in training and on the field. We don't know any details, so I don't have a view on what the right action would be, but I have confidence the management will do what is best for the club. It seems we'll soon find out, in any case.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"
The club should come down hard so that it sets the right tone, but let's not go OTT and weaken the side.
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I'm so glad that you're not employed by our club judging by your half ar5ed reply,as it would be a free for all for all players to go and do what the hell they want,in full knowledge that the club won't go OTT and get rid as it would weaken the side
What punishment do you propose that would come down hard so that it sets the right tone?
I'll tell you something now,there is a strong feeling within our squad that Bateman should leave and not play for the club again
Now that is coming down hard so that it sets the right tone
All players at Wigan would then know only too well of the consequences of such behaviour
A serious question here to all Wigan fans:
Which outcome of this internal investigation would do the greatest damage to our club?
1:We slap Bateman on the wrists but let him off the hook as we don't want to lose him,but risk losing our clubs culture and strict code of conduct
2:We get rid of Bateman and keep our club culture intact and don't have any splits in our squad
I love Bateman as a player,He was my Man of Steel up to this incident but i would not risk causing dis harmony in our squad for ANY player
Don't forget that Mossop has grown up playing for our club and has forged a strong bond within our group of players and that is why they have voiced their opinions
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| A few years back Gareth Hock and Stuart Fielden had a HUGE fight during a training session at Orrell.
This wasnt confirmed at time despite rumours but has since been made public in recent biographies. The two players put it to one side and moved on, that is best solution here as well.
All this nonsense about team bonding and squad mood is a joke. I dont like anyone I work with. Rugby players are just pieces of meat who do a job for 10 years then are moved on and find another career.
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| Quote ="Pacific"A few years back Gareth Hock and Stuart Fielden had a HUGE fight during a training session at Orrell.
This wasnt confirmed at time despite rumours but has since been made public in recent biographies. The two players put it to one side and moved on, that is best solution here as well.
All this nonsense about team bonding and squad mood is a joke. I dont like anyone I work with. Rugby players are just pieces of meat who do a job for 10 years then are moved on and find another career.'"
This is true as a family member was at the scene. Hell for leather was the term he used I think.
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| Quote ="Pacific"A few years back Gareth Hock and Stuart Fielden had a HUGE fight during a training session at Orrell.
This wasnt confirmed at time despite rumours but has since been made public in recent biographies. The two players put it to one side and moved on, that is best solution here as well.
All this nonsense about team bonding and squad mood is a joke. I dont like anyone I work with. Rugby players are just pieces of meat who do a job for 10 years then are moved on and find another career.'"
2 men punching and hitting each other is one thing. What's been alleged goes way beyond that
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| Quote ="trent"I'm so glad that you're not employed by our club judging by your half ar5ed reply,as it would be a free for all for all players to go and do what the hell they want,in full knowledge that the club won't go OTT and get rid as it would weaken the side
What punishment do you propose that would come down hard so that it sets the right tone?
I'll tell you something now,there is a strong feeling within our squad that Bateman should leave and not play for the club again
Now that is coming down hard so that it sets the right tone
All players at Wigan would then know only too well of the consequences of such behaviour
A serious question here to all Wigan fans:
Which outcome of this internal investigation would do the greatest damage to our club?
1:We slap Bateman on the wrists but let him off the hook as we don't want to lose him,but risk losing our clubs culture and strict code of conduct
2:We get rid of Bateman and keep our club culture intact and don't have any splits in our squad
I love Bateman as a player,He was my Man of Steel up to this incident but i would not risk causing dis harmony in our squad for ANY player
Don't forget that Mossop has grown up playing for our club and has forged a strong bond within our group of players and that is why they have voiced their opinions'"
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Before Tomkins came back he was by far our best player. You make exceptions for your standout players.
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| If I remember correctly:
Player A put in a cheap tackle into a young academy player during a training session and he was hurt pretty badly. Player B saw this and took exception to it. Words were exchanged and once training had finished on the field everyone moved inside where it went off again. Apparently Player B was "livid".
Not sure if this is what came out in any of the books as I haven't read them.
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| The club should take the view that this was uncharacteristic of the player, fine him and warn him as to his future conduct. Only a charge of Gross Misconduct would warrant dismissal and that would be difficult to prove without further intervention from the police. I don't want to see a great player leaving our club.
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| It's the delay in making the announcement that's worrying me , why not just announce it today instead of saying in the next few days it makes me think final arrangements are being put in place to send him to another club registration or moving players to fit him under the cap . I seriously hope I am wrong by far our best player this year would be gutted to see him leave cutting off your nose to spite your face spring to mind
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| Quote ="warrioral"The club should take the view that this was uncharacteristic of the player, fine him and warn him as to his future conduct. Only a charge of Gross Misconduct would warrant dismissal and that would be difficult to prove without further intervention from the police. I don't want to see a great player leaving our club.'"
I'm sure it said in the Observer that "further police action" only related to the damage caused to the gym and not anything relating to injuries.
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| Quote ="Iggy79"2 men punching and hitting each other is one thing. What's been alleged goes way beyond that'"
Given that one of the players who was alleged to be involved played the following week without showing any evidence of the damage that would be caused if what was alleged is true I would reasonably conclude that what was alleged was very much exaggerated or untrue.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Given that one of the players who was alleged to be involved played the following week without showing any evidence of the damage that would be caused if what was alleged is true I would reasonably conclude that what was alleged was very much exaggerated or untrue.'"
I agree. As observed at the Salford game. I believe the local saying goes along the lines of "I've got a bigger cut on my ar$e'.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Given that one of the players who was alleged to be involved played the following week without showing any evidence of the damage that would be caused if what was alleged is true I would reasonably conclude that what was alleged was very much exaggerated or untrue.'"
That's what the investigation was for - so you and me don't have to jump to conclusions
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| Quote ="trent"I'm so glad that you're not employed by our club judging by your half ar5ed reply,as it would be a free for all for all players to go and do what the hell they want,in full knowledge that the club won't go OTT and get rid as it would weaken the side
What punishment do you propose that would come down hard so that it sets the right tone?
I'll tell you something now,there is a strong feeling within our squad that Bateman should leave and not play for the club again
Now that is coming down hard so that it sets the right tone
All players at Wigan would then know only too well of the consequences of such behaviour
A serious question here to all Wigan fans:
Which outcome of this internal investigation would do the greatest damage to our club?
1:We slap Bateman on the wrists but let him off the hook as we don't want to lose him,but risk losing our clubs culture and strict code of conduct
2:We get rid of Bateman and keep our club culture intact and don't have any splits in our squad
I love Bateman as a player,He was my Man of Steel up to this incident but i would not risk causing dis harmony in our squad for ANY player
Don't forget that Mossop has grown up playing for our club and has forged a strong bond within our group of players and that is why they have voiced their opinions'"
If you were truly in the know as you claim to be you wouldn't be posting it on here
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| 10k fine and next available to play on July 22nd.
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| Fair play to the club. Taking their time to get it right. Hopefully puts some perspective into the decisions for the fans.
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| Back for the Saints game, nice quiet return for him then!
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| Thank god he's staying
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| Is the 8 week inclusive of the 2 already missed?
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Is the 8 week inclusive of the 2 already missed?'"
from the date of the incident
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Thank god he's staying'"
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| As long as the statement is true I'm happy with that. I just hope that he is genuinely remorseful and all concerned can shake hands and move on. My only concern is that bit was written in because that is what would be expected but behind the scenes he is not happy and now looking to move.
On a positive he should be well rested for the business end of the season and if he has the odd niggle it can be sorted in the next 6 weeks.
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| Quote ="Trainman"As long as the statement is true I'm happy with that. I just hope that he is genuinely remorseful and all concerned can shake hands and move on. My only concern is that bit was written in because that is what would be expected but behind the scenes he is not happy and now looking to move.
On a positive he should be well rested for the business end of the season and if he has the odd niggle it can be sorted in the next 6 weeks.'"
Why would the statement not be true?
Why disbelieve what Lenegan has said?
There is a saying on the lines of: "Damned if you do and damned if you don`t".
Let`s accept what has been said and move on.
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| Think the club have handled it well. Relieved that he is staying.
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| You may think the club have handled it well , i hope you still feel that way the next time he messes up
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