I respect Saints, I do not respect Wire, that is the difference.

I hate them both with every fibre of my being, but, I have a begrudging respect for Saints.

I walked from the stadium, to the rail station, with not a spot of bother, and people just discussing the game. This is why I love rugby league.

The derby is a pleasure of a day. Real enjoyment.

Going to Chesire is not.
My partner loves the derby. She is genuinely intimidated by going to Warrington after the last few years. I've NEVER heard her ask me to not ask her to go to the derby again. Shame the same can't be said for the other lot.

I think it's possible to overstate the 'we respect each other' thing.

It was easy to dislike the Saints fans yesterday. There was a lot of chav activity by people in Saints colours after the game. I think the Bank Holiday brings out quite a lot of this - the same thing seems to have happened at Wakey v Cas.

Saints are on a roller coaster ride at present. The unexpected Grand Final appearance last year gave them a false impression of their team's current strength. They were in the process of losing key players and were being very poorly coached. But the reality of that only hit home this year, which was a big shock to them. After that, they had the Rush/Cunningham bounce - as it would be called in political terms (aided by a Warrington team for whom arrogance appears to have replaced self-belief, and a farcical, pantomine turn from Leeds) - and again, as in politics, it only lasted a brief time. Yesterday they finally met a top side who meant business and the inevitable happened.

It's perhaps understandable why so many of them were so 'nowt', as they say. But I'm not sure that really excuses scrotey behaviour. So yes, until the Saints fans in general man up, the answer to the question must be that, yes, the hatred is back.

-wow!!! i cant understand all this garbage ppl talk about wire fans?

like you lot are angels--not-we all have a few kn@Bheads,which town doesnt!like i said,i cant understand the hatred you guys spout when talking about wire? --oh wait!!!!!

ive just checked the last cpl of results against you guys at the jjb and h-j

its all makes sense now

Great post.

Great day out, didnt see a spot of bother all day, not even a comment in our direction... the Saints v Wigan games are the most intense atmosphere inside the ground you will ever find certainly in this sport, ive been to several old firm games and over 20 Wigan Saints games and the feeling during the game is very much the same but unlike old firm games or trips to Warrington there is a mutual respect between Wigan and Saints which is superb.

its comments like just get the sugar daddy to sign him nobody else can compete with us. they are very annoying and disrespectfull to every other team in the league. since wire won a couple of challenge cups alot of the fans had 10p put into them.

-bandwagon wire-fans-had too

at that one! thats rich coming from a wigan fan-check your attendencies when wigan athletic were rising through the lower leagues to the prem? see how many-true wigan rlfc fans dropped off !well until wigan athlectic did feck all in the prem!then talk about bandwagon fans

agreed,

but by the same token,its also very,very,annoying and also very disrespectful to call all -true wire rugby fans- scum

i myself have have a good banter with all true rugby fans,regardless of who they support

i dont think i have ever called a fan of another club scum without any reason? i know your not just talking about me personally. are attendences raised during are struggles and fight against relegation, not when we won a cup. wire on this forum have some very good trolls and they are annoying and tony whiney smith doesn't help some peoples opinions on wire.

yes that's it! you beat us at home so all of your fans are idiots, no sorry my mistake, all the ones i've encountered are idiots

Cor, your a cracker!

Thanks wireflyer. I needed a good laugh.

there's nothing funny about wire fans

What you need to accept, Wirelfyer, is that Wire have had a reputation for kn0bhed fans for a long time, and it isn't just Wiganers who say that. Instead of expressing outrage that people feel this way, perhaps you should look a little closer to home and try to understand why.

You're right - not all Wire fans are idiots, and there are plenty of fools at other clubs too. But you have an awful lot more than most. And this is really not something to be proud of. I used to work with a lad from Warrington, who'd spend all day boasting about the damage the Wire fans had done at such-and-such a ground, and how they'd chased opposition fans, or wrecked a pub, and so on. Not impressive.

Hatred's back for this mon' haha

Is that one of the Chuckle Bros with the flag?

See they let the idiot out of the village for the day

How numb do you have to be to do this!!!!

Never understood the love in of recent years. I have always hated them and always will. Wire can pretend to be our closest rivals but it's not even a contest for me. Hate them both but hate Saints on a much larger scale.

its a shame, that some supposed wigan fans who didnt go to the game, who got taxis in at half time and caused a lot of trouble in the town centre, spoilt a great day, for both sets of fans. The atmosphere was brill, I think the standing at both ends added to this it was like the old days. the taxi firm should have sussed this out and refused to take them.

i hated saints for years but you can't argue with their history, not 2 challenge cups in 97 years and they are the champions elect every year?? they have lost the grand final 5 years on the trott not just won 2 cups on 117 years like the wire 'people' who according to stevo et al have already won this year


how does it go
wire wherever you may be....

Think you're kind of proving my point. It's because of their history that I hate them. They are our closest rivals in every sense of the word so how people have been cheering for them over wire in recent years baffles me.

If they'd won nothing I'd have some sort of pity for them like I used to do for Wire

Used to?
2 challenge cups can't have changed much surely?

oh but it has i was there every time we got knocked out of the challenge cup and watch wigan home and away, after the match we were in weatherspoons stains and there was some singing but nothing major, but the saints fans(rightly) who we were with said would they do that in the lord nelson after just beating wire, we all agreed that if they did ambulances would have to be called