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| I'd keep him on but only he if showed remorse in the shape of a big pay cut. He's not available to play until June 2011 though so I'm not bothered what they do with him. He isn't irreplaceable and I actually think he will find it hard to come back.
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"so you would be happy living next door to a house full of crack heads.'"
Their's a big difference between smoking crack and somebody sniffing some cocaine on a night out.
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"Their's a big difference between smoking crack and somebody sniffing some cocaine on a night out.'"
sorry but there isn't
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"sorry but there isn't'"
Do you like music? Imagine the music world without drug users!
There's no condoning it of course, but it's hardly equal to rape, murder, genocide etc where the word 'scum' may be more aptly appropriate.
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"sorry but there isn't'"
there is massively !
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| Quote ="8inarow"there is massively !'"
NO there isn't, both are illegal class A drugs and that's all there is to it, ILLEGAL being the word
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"NO there isn't, both are illegal class A drugs and that's all there is to it, ILLEGAL being the word'"
In that case then, anyone who ever has broken the law is "scum"
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"NO there isn't, both are illegal class A drugs and that's all there is to it, ILLEGAL being the word'"
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| Quote ="MattyB"Dealer > User.
Dealers should be jailed.
Users should be helped.'"
I heard shoving is worse than pushing
But I'd rather know a shover than a pusher
'Cause a pusher's a jerk.
SAY NO GO.
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| Quote ="shambawangy"In that case then, anyone who ever has broken the law is "scum"
SIGH'"
Correct, and the only way to redeem themselves is to believe in the word of the Lord and repent their sins
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| crack heads and sniffing coke are 2 different types of users completley mr bean
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"sorry but there isn't'"
sorry but there s a BIG difference huge difference
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| I'm sure all those seemingly condoning drug users,perhaps would think differently if their Grandparents or any other family member had been robbed,mugged,beaten up or even killed by a user looking for money to pay for their next fix.
Remember people in the public eye(musicians,film stars,sportsman etc)are idolised by many impressionable
youngsters who think that whatever their heros do is ok,and more often that not,copy them.
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| Quote ="shooter69"sorry but there s a BIG difference huge difference'"
In your opinion... According to the Misuse of Drugs Act there isn't.
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| Quote ="Memony"In your opinion... According to the Misuse of Drugs Act there isn't.'"
Thank you Memony
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| Well it looks as though the brown stuff is going to hit the whirling machine in Australia.
[urlhttp://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/knights-in-spin-with-several-players-implicated-in-wicks-drug-scandal-20091219-l6qc.html[/url
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| Quote ="Memony"In your opinion... According to the Misuse of Drugs Act there isn't.'"
same applies to canabis then with the act as it does with ALL illegal drugs. Bet there are a lot of people on the boartd who have tried it once. Does that make everyone scum who has tried it?
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| Whats the difference between a smack-head and a person who smokes cannabis?
A different drug.
They are no better in the eyes of the law. In your own opinion's thay may be different and I am confident you'll bring the effects of each drug on the user into the discussion, but it doesn't matter. A person who uses drugs, for whatever reason, is a user and should that person just so happen to be in the sporting world ie. Gareth Hock, it wouldn't matter if it was steroids, cocaine, cannabis or heroin he took - he'd still be labelled a drugs cheat.
I agree with the giving him help and support - after his punishment. As Bilko has said, getting back into the Wigan team for Hock, may not be as easy as some of you are speculating.
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| Quote ="pedro17"same applies to canabis then with the act as it does with ALL illegal drugs. Bet there are a lot of people on the boartd who have tried it once. Does that make everyone scum who has tried it?'"
It doesn't make everyone scum - it's the crimes some people are willing to commit in order to get their drugs which IMO makes them scum.
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| The link in the OP appears to be dead and, unsurprisingly, there is nothing on the club website. Do I take it that Hock is not being sacked and will resume his career in 2011 with Wigan Warriors?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well it looks as though the brown stuff is going to hit the whirling machine in Australia.
[urlhttp://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/knights-in-spin-with-several-players-implicated-in-wicks-drug-scandal-20091219-l6qc.html[/url'"
...and Millward thought the NRL was the best place for Gaz Hock!
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| Quote ="House of Pain"I'm sure all those seemingly condoning drug users,perhaps would think differently if their Grandparents or any other family member had been robbed,mugged,beaten up or even killed by a user looking for money to pay for their next fix.
Remember people in the public eye(musicians,film stars,sportsman etc)are idolised by many impressionable
youngsters who think that whatever their heros do is ok,and more often that not,copy them.'"
Nobody is condoning the use of drugs, but mearly trying to get a point across that GH did not take a performance enhancing drug and imo is not a cheat as coke is a depresant.
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| Quote ="8inarow"Nobody is condoning the use of drugs, but mearly trying to get a point across that GH did not take a performance enhancing drug and imo is not a cheat as coke is a depresant.'"
Actually Cocaine is not a Depresant it is a Narcotic/Stimulant
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Actually Cocaine is not a Depresant it is a Narcotic/Stimulant'"
No actually the come down far out ways the high, so in fact is classed as a depresant
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| Could someone clarify what the article was about? It seems to have been removed...
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