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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Any relation to Darrell Goulding'"
A wire fan, correcting a Leigh fans (i think) spelling on the Wigan board...
Buith, you are obsessed!!
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| Watkins is the future of England/GB RL in the right centre position - lets just hope he can keep fit. A Watkins/Charnley partnership looks very exciting.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Any relation to Darrell Goulding'"
your photo does you justice .
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Watkins is the future of England/GB RL in the right centre position - lets just hope he can keep fit. A Watkins/Charnley partnership looks very exciting.'"
Maybe in an attacking sense..
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| Watkins, Atkins, Ratchford, Bridge, J.Jones, Turner, Sarginson, Cudjoe, Reed, Sykes are all good centres. Think Gouldings defense is better than all of these players, I'd put him in the squad and use him to mark Inglis
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| But it would be nice to score a few points ourselves.
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| Wigan REALLY struggled scoring with Goulding & Charnley this season...
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Wigan REALLY struggled scoring with Goulding & Charnley this season...'"
His 10 tries for the best team in the competition was exemplary.
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| To be fair to Charnley, he was top try scorer, but Goulding must have a lot of assists in them trys.......... most underated player in Super League by far!!!
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| 15 assists.
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| Quote ="tigertot"15 assists.'"
Ablett 9 tries 9 assists
Watkins 16T 8A
Cudjoe 12T 9A
Atkins 23T 14A
Goulding compares favourably over all apart from Atkins.
And as for not even getting in the Knights
Turner 9T 5A
Evans only made 5 SL appearances for Wire
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| Watkins' stats are from 6 less games, as well as a poorer performing team week to week. Of the others Cudjoe has hardly progressed over the last few years, though he still has potential. Ablett is a SR IMO & not international class, though, like Goulding, a great club player. Turner & Evans, McNamara obviously sees them for the future (I have my doubts), whereas he must think he knows what he gets from Goulding.
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| I have always been impressed with Goulding when he has played Leeds because he seems to be able to convert chances for himself and his winger quite consistently. I would have had him in the squad certainly. With regards to Watkins, he has enormous potential, but, due to injuries, has had very little actual time on the pitch in tight S/L matches. The interesting question for me is - can he develop his potential to its ultimate and, for matches against Oz, can he up his game on defensive reads when confromted with the likes of Slater, Inglis? (Can anyone stop them will be the big question)
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| Because Watkins, abblet and Atkins are all better centres than him.
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Atkins - yes
Watkins - questionable
Ablett - never in a million years
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| I don't know why McNamara doesn't see potential in Goulding, he's younger than Atkins, Cudjoe, Ablett, Ratchford........
His record is excellent, been in form this season, I would have picked him over Cudjoe anyday.......
He's versatile, can play centre and wing, maybe 13..........
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| Hes a good centre but in the words of Brian Carney "Hes not a world beater". Neither are the current England centres but what they have over Goulding in my eyes is potential. Both Atkins and Watkins are bigger faster and stronger with the potential of becoming the best. I dont think Goulding has the physical attributes to match the likes of Inglis Hodges Kenny Dowell in fact i have visions of them all trampelling all over him.
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| as has already been said the most talented centre is watkins. after that its up for grabs for the other spot.
personally i have serious doubts about atkins' defence and abletts attack.
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| Watkins will turn out to be a clone of Chev Walker. Atkins is not international class and Ablett is a joke. The problem we have is the standard in SL is poor in comparison to NRL so these mediocre players look world beaters until they meant better opposition.
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| Defense wins matchs, I can't think of a better defensive centre........ (maybe Yeaman but he's past his best)
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| Quote ="bigtruck"Watkins will turn out to be a clone of Chev Walker'"
I've watched Walker and Watkins since both made their debut at Leeds and they are completely different players, how they could be compared is beyond me.
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| Quote ="pk"as has already been said the most talented centre is watkins. after that its up for grabs for the other spot.
personally i have serious doubts about atkins' defence and abletts attack.'"
I would say Atkins defence is better than Watkins, Ablett may not score loads but he nearly always scores when it matters in the big games.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"I would say Atkins defence is better than Watkins, Ablett may not score loads but he nearly always scores when it matters in the big games.'"
I'm not sure really. Watkins tackling and positioning is as good as Atkins, if not better, Atkins defence is poor for an experienced centre IMO. Its his decsion making that lets him down at times. But at only 21 playing in a position more often than not that has a higher workload than any other position in the backs is no real surprise.
He's the best right centre we've got available. He's a natural centre with the pace, feet and hands to be the best centre this country has produced in a long time.
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"Defense wins matchs, I can't think of a better defensive centre........ (maybe Yeaman but he's past his best)'"
You base your opinion on views through cherry & white glasses or stats? If it's the latter there is very little to back up your argument.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"I've watched Walker and Watkins since both made their debut at Leeds and they are completely different players, how they could be compared is beyond me.'"
Sorry i didn't mean in playing style i meant more along the lines of being over hyped and under delivering
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