It's contact on the head however and thats what Child said to Coley?

Not only that but it was a double strike to the head as he hits him with the left and right.

As you said however both were unintentional and accidents and I certainly wouldn’t be calling for either player to have received any sort of match ban.

Watch the Bradford vs Hull KR highlights on Hullkr.tv

Child sent Jake Webster off for more or less the same thing

Do I think they're 'out to get us'? No, I think they make some poor decisions sometimes. I do remember us playing Wakefield, or Castleford 2 seasons ago and 2 opposition players being sinbinned. One for messing about at the play of the ball and one for hitting the kicker late. At the time I agreed but I then watched it on TV when I got home. Both decisions were wrong. In fact it's arguable that either were penalties.

Lockers was warned 3 times in the CC semi against Leeds for interfering at the play of the ball. He should have got 10 mins, he didn't.

Coley received a ban for a tackle in the Leeds game but he wasn't carded for it during the match. Bent refereeing?

Quote ="thepriestman85"It's contact on the head however and thats what Child said to Coley? Not only that but it was a double strike to the head as he hits him with the left and right. As you said however both were unintentional and accidents and I certainly wouldn’t be calling for either player to have received any sort of match ban.'" There's contact to the head in nearly ever tackle but Coley ran in and swung at the head. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 714314.stm 50 seconds in. Not even in the same league as Coley's.

Quote ="thepriestman85"It's contact on the head however and thats what Child said to Coley? Not only that but it was a double strike to the head as he hits him with the left and right. As you said however both were unintentional and accidents and I certainly wouldn’t be calling for either player to have received any sort of match ban.'" There's contact to the head in nearly ever tackle but Coley ran in and swung at the head. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 714314.stm 50 seconds in. Not even in the same league as Coley's.

For me Coley's tackle at Leeds was a dam fine, hard tackle. He picked the player up and slammed him into next week. These are the types of things I want to see in at a match. A lot of the problems seem to stem from what people think is acceptable in the game of RL

I guess looking at your comments and the examples you’ve given there can be only one conclusion that the refs are completely and utterly incompetent then? There are also other things you can point out from matches which they simply miss or just plainly get wrong.

IMO the refs making all these mistakes is really ruining the enjoyment factor in the games I watch. For me Childs totally inept performance and the way he killed us in the 2nd half ruined a good Wigan win. I can’t stand the Steve Ganson show when he refs.

The sooner they limit the power of the refs and bring in numerous ways to challenge decisions the better imo.

Not for me, the Ref's decision should be final, I would rather watch 80 mins of RL with a few reffing mistakes in than watch players constantly challenge decisions and undermine Ref's.

Are you suggesting that a ref should make a call and then a player can just go "nah, I reckon thats wrong" and challenge it, potentially humiliating the ref infront of a few thousand people? We wouldn't have any refs left.

The way I see it is that I’ve not paid £15+ quid a match to watch or hear a ref. Honestly I couldn’t give one what the refs opinion is or what he thinks of the game. I honestly neither respect them or want them there.

If a team is attacking and a player drops the ball that's fine as it's their own fault. If a team is attacking and the ref penalises them with a wrong call that’s unfair and why should we have to put up with it?

It would be ok if 9 times out of 10 the refs made the right call but sadly imo it’s more like 4/10 in terms of right calls out of 10.

Slight exaggeration there

Maybe a little low but it certainly isn’t more than 60%.

The refs make far too many mistakes for a pro sport.

I thought it was a red! But its the consistency of decisions and punishments. Gilmour sin binned for obstructing the kick chase at St Helens was a yellow. Ive seent he same incident twice since one was a pen one was play on!!

Bentham told me that he had to sin bin Farrell as a hitting the kicker was an automatic yellow!! But yet on sunday it was just a pen!!

Going off the McGoldrick incident where he gets a ban because he had a poor record Coley will def get a ban and prob 2 games!!

Excellent attitude. Lets head the way of football then shall we? As a sport we are a fine example of how players should treat refs. Its attitudes like this which are screwing society up. Blatant disregard and disrespect for authority. What an idiot you are.

You are typical of all the Wigan, Wire and Saints fans who constantly whinge about the referees. Every time something goes against your side you blame the referee. Child didn't make the tackle, Coley did, Phil Bentham merely reported who he had seen and gave an opinion. Although it probably wasn't intentional it was a bad one and needed drastic action.
Your lack of respect for the referee is also a worry. Do you want RL to follow Football where, despite the 'Resect' campaign (what a joke), the players constantly scream and swear at the Refs and try to decieve them?

Lol a little bit of a jump there. So your saying because someone doesn’t respect Bentham or Ganson they are ruining society?

I certainly respect the fine jobs the police, fire service, ambulance people etc do but I’m not going to give respect to RL refs as they simply haven’t earned it and are about as far away from coppers, soldiers and Doctors as what you can get.

To put it simply RL refs are totally incompetent and all this respect the ref BS is making them worse. If we could see that the problems which occur week in week out were actually being addressed in a professional and open manor then I’d show them much more respect. Sadly this never happens and instead of someone saying yes we made a mistake and we’re sorry they always back their own even when it’s obvious they are wrong. Anyone remember the Hull KR match last season and the ref not hearing the half time hooter? Cummings response was that Wigan should buy a new hooter!!!!!! Respect works both ways.

The Coley sending off wasn't the refs fault. He didn't make the tackle. You are on a loser. It might be worth trying to referee a game yourself. It isn't easy.

Saying it’s a hard job isn’t an excuse for getting things wrong sadly.

Also with the standard response many give of why don’t you try it yourself I’m not arrogant enough to think i have a right to tell quality RL players they are doing things wrong on a pitch.

But you do have the right to tell Refs what a poor job they are doing, is that correct? You are digging yourself into a big hole. To go back to the beginning, everyone else is agreed it was the right decision, but maybe 2 games is a little harsh. Do you still maintain that the red card was wrong?

I have the right because I pay good money to follow my team & and although there are some decisions which I agree come down to personal opinions on certain incidents there are others which are clear cut and just simply wrong. If players are punished for breaking the rules why aren’t the refs?

I want to see that mistakes are A-admitted and are B-punished but this very rarely happens so how are we supposed to react? Why can’t we see detailed reports on the refs after each game saying what they did wrong and what actions have been implemented to improve them? There is no accountability and without that things will never change. It’s pure BS that the refs are protected in the way they are.

As for your second question I realise I’m in the minority on this but I don’t think Coley should have been sent from the field. I also think it’s an absolute disgrace that he’s been banned for two further matches as I honestly don’t think the tackle was that bad.

Well that says it all then, you know nothing about the game. The bloke went from the field with a concussion and didn't return you don't get that from a flick in the face when you are a bloke like Fakir.

It was a terrible tackle and he deserved to be sent off

No it means I’m just not an absolute mard ar£e like many on here. It’s a bit of biff like in the 2nd SOO game and part and parcel of what RL is about tough guys playing on through it. It’s the sport of guys like Faz with his broken nose, Edwards with his broken cheek bone or lesser examples like Fielden carrying on for GB after Mason knocked him out.

OK, if that's what you want, then you'd better stick to your seventies/eighties Video collection and have fantasies over Nicholas v Cunningham, or Cullen v Goodway. Personally, these days I don't think head high tackling has any part in the game these days. It certainly is not 'a bit of biff.'

Lol ok.

Enjoy it when the games turns in football and tackling is banned or players milk injuries to get players sent off.

But I’m sure seeing that you’re a Wire fan and the stuff Briers has been getting up to in recent weeks it’s your idea of fun anyway.

must admit, i'm with the minority on this one too.

throughout the season, as far as i can recollect there haven't been many straight reds for the type of tackle the RFL have classed it as post match and there certanly hasn't been many 2 game bans following on from it too. all we ask for is consistency. there has certainly been a huge lack of cards, on reports and bans for similar incidents and other incidents whether deemed as wreckless or as dangerous or not - for and against all teams.

of course, if it had happened to a saints player or a wire player for example i'd be laughing all the way to work and back but that is part of being a fan of RL as you are allowed the banter and its accepted throughout the sport. there's nothing wrong with an opinion. but there is something wrong with the refereeing consistency, whether we were talking about the coley ban or not.

Now you really are being stupid. I suggest you look at some of the replies from Wigan fans to my initial post on this subject. As for the Briers comment, you could say the same about Sam Tomkins.
Yes, I am a Wire fan of longstanding and have been all my life because it's my home and I love it, but I'm also a huge RL fan in general and a great admirer of what Wigan have done this year both on and off the field. I took my Primrose and Blue Glasses off some years ago, I suggest you take off yopur Cherry and White ones.

If there is one prefect example which shows how wrong yours and others arguments are on this it's today's SOO match.

There are a number of far worse incidents and plenty of high shots which the ref simply took into the context of the game. That's how a ref should act and that's how you EARN respect. We wanna see free flowing matches of 13 vs 13 not stop start penaltyathons (made up word I know)

That SOO game is far and above anything I've seen in SL this year in terms of free flowing rugby and aggression (including head shots and off the ball niggles) That's how i want to see my RL played and I'm 100% sure Ganson would have ruined it.

There was absolutely nothing in today's SOO Match that was anything like as bad as the tackle on Sunday night. If you want to get back to the days of badly broken jaws then so be it, but it would appear that virtually no one else on this thread does.
You'll also be delighted to know that this is my ladt post on the subject as I do not wish to get banned from your Board and in the next couple of days will be asking a small favour of Wigan fans in general (it doesn't involve money).