He's just scored a hat trick (again) so you can't find fault there so lets [umake something up[/u about an attitude problem. Unbelievable.

Dave

So what's your explanation?

The truth is Ainscough as an [iall round[/i winger is not as good as Richards or Roberts.

He is an awesome talent and the coaching staff have recognised he needs to be playing the highest level he can in order to iron out a few minor issues in his game. I have no doubt when the time is right providing he irons out the few problems in his game and has the right attitude Ainscough will be a Wigan winger week in week out.

Until this time comes I think we have the perfect situation with all wingers getting game time at SL level.

I am stunned at this. I remember Robinson getting slammed for his weakness' I remember him losing us 2 or 3 games with errors under kick pressure.

Thank god he was not judged the same way Ainscough is being at the moment.

Stunning.

Exactly. There must be some reason why he's being sent elsewhere.

Not one that involves speculating he's been sent on loan because he has an attitude problem.

If you want me to speculate I think they could not send Goulding out on a dual reg contract in the first place to Widnes due to the rules so Ainscough went instead.

As to why they cancelled the dual reg agreement with Widnes to send him on loan to Cas instead of bringing him into the 1st team, I have no idea but I don't think there are any grounds for suggesting it's down to an attitude problem.

It could be as others have said the club prefers SL experience for him for a month. Who knows but what I do know is I have not seen such an obviously talented young player have people overstating his frailties and have people speculating on his attitude like they do with Ainscough. I completely fail to see what he has done to deserve it.

Dave

Because he has shown flaws BUT the way some go on the lad is a no hoper. We have a strong back 3 but many people are writing him off for no real reason.

He is a real talent and he has proven himself. The lad is not perfect but who is. Personally I would say he is having a better season than Sam Tomkins who has been poor generally thus far in a dominant team. Funny how 1 players flaws are highlighted on here but another's are totally ignored.

Just posting that would have been simpler and more accurate.

None of us do, it seems. But you speculate plenty when it suits you.

Perhaps, for once, we should just trust the coaching staff.

Sam Tomkins problems (such as they are) are ignored IMO because he is young player who is very talented and he tries stuff and backs himself. The exact same ought to be able to be said of Ainscough but for some reason his flaws (such as they are) are under a spotlight. I don't get it.

Dave

For once Dave i agree. In my opinion Tomkins has more issues with his game than Ainscough. But both are quality players. Yet one is highlighted.

We have potentially 2 world class players, Ainscough has torn the best age group players they have to offer to bits.

Lets stop bagging him and see it as it is or lets judge all the junior players on the same level.

And it's more accurate than speculating he has an attitude problem isn't it!



You are the one doing the speculating, not me.

Then you invited me to join in with the speculation why he was sent on loan and when I do, you are suggesting I should not have done so? Give over.

Dave

How do you know?



No. I said that you, who speculates plenty when it suits you, don't like other folk doing it if it's something you don't want to hear. Perhaps, rather than hearing possible explanations, you just prefer to imagine that the world is against Shaun Ainscough.

CAN WE KEEP HIM UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Just out of interest was Ainscough in the Wigan reserve team that played away to Cas a few years ago when the Cas fans were shouting for death to anyone in a cherry and white shirt?

No, Gareth Melling and Nicky Stanton were the wingers that day. it was the academy U18's not the reserves.

Amos is 30 in November. The "Wigan way" is to get rid at that age.

he will have 2 years left, the wigan way is to not renew his contract

I know it was tongue in cheek.

I just dont want to lose SA!

I cant see him waiting 2 years as he is good enough now.

but I think hw will get his chance, personally I would have played him instead of Goulding but, Goulding has been fine since he came in. I have total faith in the new set up.

A lot will depend on how Phelps goes at fullback. The option MAY be Amos at fullback and Ainscough on the wing.

As I said last week, I don't think we would have won that game with Phelps at fullback,as I don't think he would have scored either of the Roberts tries and wouldn't have created the Goulding one.

It's a nice problem for the coaching staff.

For once I'm going to agree with Dave O that it would be better to keep Ainscough and let Goulding go out on loan, but I suppose the reality is that Goulding is a little more versatile in that he can cover wing and centre.

I think SA looked down in the interview because he sees a centre (Goulding) being chosen to play wing in front of him.

Therefore he probably sees his chances of getting into Wigans team as being slim.

Ainscough can be brought back to Wigan after one month at Cas.
Scored three tries again and the airshot gets mentioned.
When we played Leeds at home last year their wingman made a mistake that Wigan scored from and took the game away from them.
It didn't stop Hall from becoming the leagues top try scorer or taking his place in the four nations squad. Players make mistakes. Most don't score the tries like Ainscough does.
The irony is if he stays at Cas for a few months he could well be selected for England v France. If he stays with them longer who knows what the International future could hold for him.
He surely has to remain a Wigan player.

He took his chances well last night and i was very impressed with is defense only one mistake took some good high balls which he would have missed 12 months ago. Much improved performance from the young man the good thing is he will only improve with more SL game time great move by the club.

Can't understand why we would play Goulding instead of Ainscough.

How long does Ainscoughs contract run for? Because it would not surprise me if he moved on upon completion of his present one after the lack of confidence shown by the Wigan coaching staff over the last 18 months. People seem to be more worried about the few weaknesses he has rather than the massive ability he has. Even Slater of Melbourne makes the odd mistake.