Fair enough, as I said I hadn't seen any (dont do twitter etc) and the main website release didn't say anything.
What other lies are those then?

The club did say on their twitter feed there would be regular updates on social media.

Edwards.

So I've just found out, and as I say I hadn't seen it anywhere and it wasn't on the website release I saw. Not sure how twitter works etc but if someone has replied saying that I'm guessing it wasn't IL or Rads themselves, however, it is a mistake (or for the rabid few a lie) which i am sure they will burn in hell for.
So I will then say again i haven't seen anywhere were its mentioned about it ever being shown on Wigan tv edited or not so my reply to Tricky was that to keep saying "Still nothing on Wigan TV" when I'm pretty sure they said it wouldn't be shown is a bit futile.
But hey, if it gives people somethig to get angry about good luck to em.

Well I do want "a list"
But I'll start with this for now, what lies did they tell on Tuesday about the Edwards situation ?

See page 13.

I already have
I don't see anywhere where you explain what lies they told?
Just that you know their version of events were lies

I suppose the questions are

If you weren't there, how do you know know what they said ?
And which bit of what they said were lies?

Saying you're going to do one thing via the official club account and then not doing it makes it a lie in my book. Don't know about you but I don't like being lied to and as already said I know for a fact the version of events given about Edwards wasn't correct.

I know because I was told by someone there at the forum who also knows what actually happened. I also know someone close to the process who told me what did and more importantly did not happen during the Edwards process. Saying anything else might identify the person involved which I'm not going to do.

Well thats cleared that up then

Yep, the club certainly cleared up they were willing to pull the wool over supporter eyes. Those that want to can keep drinking their 120 limited edition Kool Aid.

I really have no idea what that means but so be it

Too cryptic?

The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth.

I'm gutted, Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't think I was so naive
I'll make sure I let everyone I know that was there know they're mugs as well.

I believed IL when he told me the financial situation, the reduced income, how the shortfall was met, will be met this year and their forecast for 2020. Their intentions of things went well, and what if they didn't.
I believed him/rads when they told us some average stuff about Hardaker
I believed him when he told me bad news on numerous fronts
I'll just remember now that it was ALL lies

They should have listened to the mystery guy in row 2 who didn't when he got chance call out the lies, but instead preferred to text his mate who in turn won't actually explain what lies they told, but is alright calling everyone that went in effect mugs.

How did your mate feel being used? Is he a Mug?

You obviously like your cryptic posts, fair enough
I'll do it a bit more straight forward

Once again, just point out which bit was lies, give us this "list".

It doesn't sit well with me that Jukes is put in a situation where has to expend his free time explaining things, and, indeed, if you will, defending IL/KR.

And doing it with good grace too. But the process doesn't seem right to me.

I am not pointing the finger or have sufficient information to accuse anybody of lying. (Not aimed at Jukes in any way)

What I can't understand is the cloak and dagger approach to the whole evening . The information given out by IL and KR was always going to come out in some form . Surley it would be better for the fans to hear it verbatim from the club instead of second hand where mistakes or misunderstandings can cause problems . Which it clearly has done and creates conspiracy theories as I stated previously.

Regards EW

The club are allowed to change their mind about updating twitter, which clearly they did, because the website post now says there will be no updates at all. They're entitled to do that, and it would appear they did.

As for the lies accusation.....

IMO 5 people max will know what happened with Edwards as 100% fact.

Rads
Lenegan
Edwards
His agent
Club lawyer (possibly his lawyer to make 6)

Anything else from anyone else is hearsay. As this thread is showing, people will read or hear what they want to. So whilst people may have been told from a particular source what happened they will only actually run with the bit they want to that suits their narrative.

The Edwards thing has happened, it's over. If I'm honest I think he'd have gone the first RU job he was offered anyway so was hardly going to be long term.

I was more concerned that the club has no debt, has future plans to rectify things and is basically still here because IL agreed to cover a substantial financial loss from his own pocket.

Some supporters who could not be bothered to get a ticket and attend the forum and even make excuses of why they could not attend sure have a lot to say about what took place.

I may have been critical of Lenagan and Radlinski myself, but like Juke Says and Egg Chasing who I have run in's with, I am prepared to listen to what Lenagan and Radlinski had to say about the situation at the club and not spend time having a go at them or indeed anyone else who did attend, implying that they have been brainwashed.

No matter what Lenagan and Radlinski had to say in their defence, some supporters had set their stalls out not to listen from the moment that the forum was announced.

Not heard anyone say they couldn't get a ticket because they'd run out yet. Bit like that time people wanted fan points even though we only ever fully sold out 1 game.

I do struggle to get my head round the club not sharing details of what was discussed. That seems like a great way for Chinese whispers to start, and is bound to cause some disgruntlement. Plus telling only 120 fans isn't really an effective way to communicate, unless the aim was more to get an idea of the views of the fans.

Having said that, tickets were free and didn't sell out quickly, so I don't really sympathise too much with people who are kicking off about it either. OK some people couldn't make it, but that's life. It's not like we have a right to this information. FWIW I don't think the club lied about the updates, more likely there has been a mistake somewhere along the way. It's not like they would gain anything by it.

Jukesays and others who went don't deserve to be piled on for what they share or don't share about the forum. They aren't club spokesmen and as we can already see from what Jukesays has told us, it can be quite a time consuming process answering everyone's questions, and his answers will only be based on what he remembers and interprets from what was said.

Real shame this wan't put on Wigan TV. Could've saved club stooges running on here every 5 minutes frantically trying to defend IL & KR at every turn.

The main apologist, I'm informed, is absolutely desperate for a role at the club.
I suspect the flavour of these posts can be read against that backdrop

The club's in a tail spin. Take more than a couple of happy clappers to convince me otherwise

'Happy clappers' ... 'stooges' ...

Seriously, mate. Go and follow a different club. You'll be a lot happier.

I've already given a list - it should be pretty obvious that if I go into detail it would identify the person involved in the Edwards situation which I'm clearly not going to do. They had absolutely no reason to tell me what they did ( I didn't know they were involved first hand until they told me), but it doesn't show the cub in a very good light, and events since continue that trend.

Without trawling through all the posts again, I dont think you have provided a "list".
I still say, based on what Rads said, it would be very easy to point out which bit or bits he said was a lie.(Bearing in mind I have nonidea what your mystery man told you IL/Rads said?).

TBH the whole Edwards thing lasted less then 2 mins, Rads had 90secs max were he didn't back IL against anything to do with contracts, the process etc etc.,

He only refuted/disagreed with 2 statements that Edwards made at the time or shortly after the event and he explained why.
Neither of which are mind blowing, they're both a he said/she said situation and IMO hardly worth worrying about.
It would be easy to say henlied about x, and based on what he said I'm not sure how it would get anyone in any trouble but hey ho.
Interestingly enough my best mate is a mate of Edwards and he told me about a month ago what Edwards told him. It is what it is.

IMO I don't think IL/Rads told the whole truth on a couple of points last night because "I Know" certain things. I do however understand that there may be reasons for that, contractual, legal etc. And probably more importantly because we still have to deal with people involved in those situations. And from my point of view I'm not that desperate to come on a forum and call them out, prove them wrong etc because I understand that a/ i may not be right b/complex situations aren't usually black and white, right and wrong and opinions/context etc play big parts.

I also wouldn't want to betray confidences etc.
But I won't come on here and call them Liars etc though, I just accept that there will always be an element of grey about situations.

There weren't any grey areas in terms of Edwards - it was black and white, hence why I called them out. The club said they would do something during the forum in terms of communication - they didn't, again black and white.