But then you've got Saints fans seeing their winning the double and England winning the World Cup and that's a dreadful thought.

If only we could find English passports for the non English lads in the Saints side, we’d win the football World Cup, let alone the Rugby League one.

Their fans told me.

Merseysiders don't support England.

We stayed at the Ibis Gare opposite the railway . Good and reasonable price . The Ibis Styles Gare is right next door . Thirsty Monk and Pub O'clock are good pubs with an excellent choice of beers. Dave Foti (CST) does city centre to stadium transfers. Toulouse was a great weekend with plenty pubs and resteraunts.

EW

Hang on a minute. Where did I mention then winning anything

Yeah we went in Pub O'clock for one. We also caught the Dave Foti coach €10 return (stadium to centre), very good value.

Really enjoyed it, good to meet with so many people we haven't seen for a while. Best value bar was the Seven Sisters who were doing Peroni for 4 Euros a pint, although the Wigan fans has supped them dry by Sunday!!

Give Seven Sisters a go tonight then Brian . Just heading to the airport now .

EW

I have just finished listening to the Out of Your League Podcast episode with Morgan Knowles and had to laugh a few times at the ignorance of John Wilkin in his effusive praise of Saints. Before I start, I must say that Knowles seems an outstanding individual and I am glad we will have him in the England side against the Aussies and Kiwis in the World Cup.

However, according to Wilkin, Saints do not have a single weakness, the only thing that can stop them is injuries or poor future recruitment decisions. Oh, and the best one he came out with was that Morgan Knowles has already surpassed Sean O'Loughlin

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Whilst Saints again are favourites to win the GF, I think all the other sides in the league have to remember they have won the last two Grand Finals via a fluke last minute try and scraped a 2pt win in a fiercely contested game. What I will give them praise for is their consistency, no other side can match that week to week IMO. But, in a one off game they are not as far ahead as some people would have you believe.

Well, let's be honest here, Jon Wilkin was himself better than Sean O'Loughlin so he should know...

I watched that last week and I rate Knowles extremely highly but I nearly fell off my chair at the comment from Wilkin that he’s gone past Lockers already. I’d love more context on it from Wilkin but if he genuinely was saying Knowles level now is better than anything Lockers reached, than he’s the new Gary Schofield. Let’s be totally honest here, Lockers at his best could do everything Knowles can do with ease and then throw some absolutely outrageous skill on top.

O Loughlin was a very able clubman but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Hes no where near the pedestal wigan fans put him on.

Jon Wilkin is correct

Of course he is...

Now let's just take you for a little lie down. I promise the nasty Wiganers will be gone when you wake up.

Wilkins is clearly trolling, there is no way he could actually believe all this BS, he is early in his tv career and clearly has to make outlandish comments just to get noticed.
Please chaps, take it with a pinch of salt and DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

I admire your persistence on these boards, I really do. It’s an incredible commitment to trolling that has never and never will be rivalled. I have this vision of a strange, loner of a man, in his 40’s/50’s, sitting in his mams spare room, in his teenage mutan ninja turtle pyjamas, with posters of Shane Cooper and Sonny Nickle on his walls, thinking of what username to go with next. I’m convinced I’m not far off.

Never change

How dare you! He's clearly more a Power Rangers type of guy

Ninja turtles indeed.....

I think he's that muppet who cuts out bits of red tape to stick them on his van telling everyone how much he hates Wigoon with his H8 WGN reg plate.

I generally find Wilkin to be pretty good as a TV summariser, but he was clearly trolling here, fine a player though Knowles is.

Never change? He will have a new name again by summer.

Another weakness is their assumption that they are unbeatable and very well may bite them on the ar$e.

Summer is pushing it, he’s probably got a couple on the go already.

He’s great on TV summarising games but horrendous on that podcast. I now only listen to it when it’s Wigan related as him and Mark Flanagan chat irrelevance just to hear the sound of their own voice.

Leave him alone, ignore him. All you're doing is giving him the attention he craves!!

And neither are as bad as the host, which is saying plenty about that guy.

If I could return to a topic discussed upthread: there was much talk of Joe Mills' frustration colouring the views of fans who at that point, had not seen the game themselves. And maybe rightly so. But Joe and Bilko are commentating in real time, they feel the frustration just like the crowd at the stadium do when they see a chance missed. All our views are coloured by the first thing we hear, just like peoples' views on Mago were coloured by NK's mate who thought he looked tired in the NRL.

Not having a pop at you, NK, really!